MLM was originally designed to work only with "real" mailing lists. These are ones such that the emails are TO the list. Look in the Source of the message and you'll see the list address in the To: header. These are the same messages where the MLM will fill in the list address for you. (Whether or not it also fills in various other info depends on all those extra headers you sometimes see.) The mailing list server redirects those messages to you, even though you don't appear in the To: header. All these messages should be "well-behaved" with respect to MLM rules.
After a number of requests, some version of Entourage - I can't recall which but probably some version of X - added the ability of the MLM to also handle "newsletter"-type lists where the list server sends out to a group or address-book' worth of email addresses. These messages are "to" you: the To: header has your email address. It's only handled by MLM because _you_ tell MLM that this is a mailing list. The From: header may be From the mailing list address (if the list server sends normally), or it may be From: the original sender (like real mailing lists) if the list server does a Redirect instead. The MLM does its best, but the headers will give little or no indication that this is a mailing list: there will be few or no extra headers. It's sometimes hard for the MLM to know whether a particular email is from the list or not. In particular, I'd guess that if the list server does a Redirect, the email can just look like a normal message directly from the original sender (in the From: header) to you, and it won't be filtered by the MLM. That's probably what's happening here. "Newsletter"-type emailing lists are not designed by "pros". Most mailing list organizers have no awareness of MLM-type recipients, since nothing but Entourage has one. Postini too is probably looking just for real mailing lists where the list address is in the To header. For newsletter-type lists where your address is in the To header, and especially where the list address does not appear as the From header, you'll have to use ordinary rules - since it just looks like an ordinary sender to the MLM. -- Paul Berkowitz MVP MacOffice Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html> AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/> PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using - **2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise. > From: Lindsley Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:44:16 -0500 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: MLM (Ent X): Am I Overlooking Something Obvious? > > Mailing List Manager ("MLM") works like a charm for me for many lists to which > I > am subscribed. But, as I subscribe to new things, problems sometimes arise. > > An item comes in, say, from a new list and I find it in my inbox; I go to > Tools/MLM and I can signal it I want a new rule. > > For some rules (those that then work OK), Entourage X fills in the name of the > list on the opening screen of a new MLM and I determine the folder into which > I > want the messages routed, make other decisions, tap OK and all is well > thereafter. End of story: happy camper. > > Alas, not all email that I think is sent from a list of some sort produces > this > result. A large number of them put my email address in the "list address." > When that happens, all mail sent to me with that address winds up in the > designated folder, save that captured by an earlier MLM. (Note: at least one > such sender's email address does not contain the word "list" as within it, > should that be significant: is such bulk mail *not* a list, then?) > > I did not find this discussed in the Entourage help pages, so turn here to be > guided or shamed, as the case may be. > > Oh, at least one of the new items is one that my ISP's "Postini" spam filter > thought was such (wasn't). So, that email's internet headers are extensive > and > complex (to this header neophyte). I could paste that into this inquiry if > that > has a bearing, but spare all on round one from a lot of text that might not > mean > anything. > > I would really prefer to handle as much as possible by MLM instead of finicky > "rules". TIA > > LW > -- > > Lindsley Williams / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > OS 10.3.9 Ent X 10.1.6 (yes, still) PowerBook G4 > > -- > To unsubscribe: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > archives: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> > old-archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/> > > -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
