On 11/13/05 12:53 PM, "Mr Tea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently sent a message to another list containing a block of text dragged
> from TextEdit. When the message appeared on the list it was in two different
> font sizes (although it was sent as plain text), and contained stuff like
> this:
> 
>     Mr HauY´Níy´Éï?,w%¤y?9ê_ÔBÃ
> 
> Suspecting a unicode issue, I checked the headers of the munged message and
> found this:
> 
>    Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>    Content-transfer-encoding: base64
> 
> Is that a problem? It seems that I can avoid some of the munging by changing
> the character set (in the Format menu) from 'Automatic' to 'Western European
> (ISO)', but this has to be done on a message by message basis. Is there a
> better way?

Don't paste Unicode text in messages to recipients (and list servers) that
can't display Unicode. Entourage generally displays a yellow banner telling
you that some characters you are sending require Unicode if that's the case.

The simple way to do that would be to set your TextEdit document to
Format/Plain text. Then, go to Save and see that it plans to Save in Plain
text encoding: Western (MacRoman) - whether you actually feel like saving
the doc or not. If that's what shows up, you can safely copy and paste. If
it shows Unicode (UTF-8) or (UTF-16), you'll know you've included some
characters that require Unicode - switching to MacRoman will lose those, and
you can inspect the text to see if it's OK.

You're surely not going to suggest that there ought to be some setting in
Entourage that will munge text (replace Unicode characters by "?" or
similar) without warning you?

Have you any idea which characters you've pasted from TextEdit are
triggering the UTF-8 encoding in Entourage? If you've pasted only ASCII
characters, Entourage will send as US-ASCII (7-bit) encoding. Most "normal"
extended characters (such as those made by typing with option key on a US
keyboard, including the AppleScript ‚ ¬ ¾ „ « » characters, triggers an IS0
8859-1 encoding with quoted-printable, which all mailing lists I know can
handle. It sounds to me as if you must have had a quasi-graphic "character"
such as a horizontal line, at the very least, to inspire Entourage to encode
as UTF-8 with base64 encoding (used only for attachments). Simply copying
and pasting ASCII or "normal" extended Latin text from an RTF-formatted
TextEdit document would not make Entourage think it has to encode as utf-8.
 

-- 
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X  or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.


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