That's just the opposite of what I observed this past weekend here in 
southeastern MA.  The scarlet oaks are starting to turn right now, but it 
varies with size/age of the plant.  Those that are no taller than me are mostly 
brilliant red and those under 20' or so are maybe halfway there.  I've got this 
mental note that says scarlet oaks tend to peak around the first weekend in 
November and I think that will be fairly close for this year.  As Steve noted, 
the larger, older oaks don't seem to be very brilliantly colored.  Every year I 
search for a brilliantly colored very large scarlet oak and every year I fail 
to find one even though these are among the most common upland trees around 
here.  This pattern doesn't seem to hold as well for maples though.  Even very 
large red and sugar maples are absolutely beautiful in the fall.  I do recall a 
sugar maple that I planted with my parents in southeastern Michigan that did 
turn a brilliant orange when it was
 younger, but then settled into a lovely, but much less spectacular yellow 
later in life.  This tree later died and I wonder if it just wasn't happy due 
to drought stress in the late 80's. 

Doug

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Randy Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Randy Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Fall colors and leaf drop
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:14 PM
> Is it just my imagination or do old trees of a given species
> tend to  
> turn before the young ones?
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