Well, Darian, I guess after looking more closely at the map, Plum Run is actually west of Big Round Top. Now, I either owe you a case of beer, of like when I do this to Ed, a case of Mtn. Dew. Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Luthringer Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Re: Celtis Hi Darian, Nice hackberry. Thanks for trying to find the pignuts! I know the trail you were at behind Big Round Top. There was a fat ash on the backside (shut up, Will) of the hill with poison ivy on it. The "pignuts" were located on the trail that runs on the north side of Plum Run. The whole Big Round Top complex is on the south side of Plum Run. I've attached a map with "x" marks the spot in the attached word file in case you get another chance to head back there. Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darian Copiz Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Celtis ENTS, Last year in September I had crossed to an island in the Potomac River (Offut Island) and came across a large hackberry. I had wanted to return to get better measurements, and did so last Friday (10/24/08). This island is only accessible when the water in the Potomac is very low. The D.C. area hadn't had rain in a while, but we were going to over the weekend. Friday was possibly my only chance to go this year when the water was low, but some leaves were off the trees. So I crossed to Offut Island, only got my feet wet, and measured the tree: Celtis occidentalis - 11' 3" x 100.2' The cbh is pretty significant for our area, but I'm pretty sure I can find taller ones. Also over the weekend, I'm embarassed to say that on Saturday I visited Gettsyburg. Visiting in itself, of course, is not embarassing, but not finding Dale's hickory is. All I can say in my defense is that from the description I thought I would be able to find it. I don't have GPS so wasn't able to use that, but checked the trails right around Big Roundtop, and also got soaked (pouring rain) in the process. Pignuts were the most common hickories in the area with some mockernut. I didn't see any bitternut. I measured a large white ash (maybe the same that Dale measured) at 115.9.' Other notable trees were what I'm pretty sure was red mulberry along a trail and Celtis tenuifolia on the top of the hill. Sorry I didn't confirm the hickory. Dale, you may want to email me a marked up map showing the location and I'll try to keep in my records for next time. Darian
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