Neil,

Outstanding!  Those are some really nice oaks. The remind me of some I
have seen at the Carl Sandburg Estate, but these may be even older.

JP

On Nov 11, 10:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Neil,
>
>    Outstanding! You don't post offen, but when you do it is dynamite.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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> From: neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > I want to share with fellow tree enthusiasts some exciting discoveries
> > and forest ecology research in the Inner Bluegrass Region of Kentucky.
> > This region is based primarily of Ordivician limestone and sits upon a
> > slightly higher formation called the Jessamine Dome. The soils of the
> > region are among the most valuable in the commonwealth. It is the
> > location of the first settlements in Kentucky [Fort Boonesborough,
> > Harrodsburgh, Danville, Logan's Fort, Bryan's Station, etc.] during the
> > late-1700s. Of course, horse farms still dominate the region. Thus,
> > there is little forest across the region. The exception to this is the
> > Palisades formation along the Kentucky River.
>
> > I was asked by Beverly James, preserve manager, to look into the age
> > structure of Floracliff Nature Sanctuary along the Inner Bluegrass in
> > southern Fayette County [http://www.floracliff.org/about.html]. I was
> > not too hopeful in the potential for old trees because the preserve is
> > close to a major corridor [now I-75], has a series of fields within the
> > sanctuary, is close to Lexington, KY, and, from an earlier visit, is
> > dominated by a second-growth forest being overrun by bush honeysuckle.
> > Yet, on the first visit, Beverly and her assistant Althea Wiggs, brought
> > me to some very interesting looking chinkapin oaks, trees that seemed a
> > bit out of place in the second-growth forest.
>
> > Sure enough, their ages indicate they are out of place. In fact, they
> > are from another time.
>
> > With a great crew, now including Dr. Ryan McEwan of U. of Dayton, Ciara
> > _____ (volunteer asst. at Floracliff) and Chris Boyer (undergrad at
> > Eastern KY U), the six of us cored 20 living chinkapin [or chinquapin,
> > if you prefer]. The first tree we cored came in at 372 yrs, the oldest
> > documented tree in KY at the time. that record did not last too long,
> > however. The second tree came in at 398 yrs, now the oldest-documented
> > tree in KY. About half of the remaining sample shows chinkapin oaks from
> > a different era living in Floracliff.
>
> > Below is the 'prelim' age structure for the chinquapin oak at
> > Floracliff. These are ring counts, except for the two oldest individuals
> > (who are cross-dated versus the other oak chronologies in eastern KY),
> > so many of these ages could be ±5-10 yrs. We have not ring counted just
> > the most interesting individuals.
>
> > Tree Date/Rings Comments
> > 1 1637/372 yrs cross-dated
> > 2 1611/398 yrs cross-dated
> > 3 109 yrs ring count
> > 4 153 yrs ring count
> > 5 147 yrs ring count - shows a release from
> > competition in 1920s
> > 6 351 yrs ring count
> > 7 321 yrs ring count
> > 8 212 yrs ring count - rotten tree, ~ 1/2 of the radius
> > 9 219 yrs ring count
> > 11 315 yrs ring count
> > 12 349 yrs ring count
> > 14 287 yrs ring count - rotten tree
> > 16 344 yrs ring count
> > 17 370 yrs ring count
> > 19 341 yrs ring count
> > 20 81 yrs ring count - tree next to main trail
>
> > At least nine trees over 300 yrs [I think there are 1-2 more that will
> > come close to 300 yrs]. What amazes me is that six of these trees are
> > ~340 yrs and 3 of those are ~ 370 yrs or older - WOW!
>
> > I'll send Ed pictures of trees 2, 16 & 19.
>
> > Related: under the direction of Ryan, most of this crew spent a couple
> > days at Griffith Woods, a representation of the oak-blue ash savanna
> > thought to be a settlement-era ecosystem that dominated the Inner
> > Bluegrass [http://www.friendsofgriffithwoods.org/index.html]. This
> > notion, however, is being challenged by the work of Ryan McEwan and
> > Julian Campbell. A small, but powerful sample of remnant oaks and ash
> > across the Greater Lexington area indicates that they are indeed old
> > trees; many date to the late-1600s and early-1700s. However, most of
> > these trees show an incredible increase in ring widths soon after
> > European settlement, suggesting the Inner Bluegrass was initially
> > forested prior to Euro-settlement. Initial cores from Griffith Woods
> > seems to suggest something similar [ref available here:
> >http://academic.udayton.edu/RyanMcEwan/Pub/Pub.htm]. I'll send Ed some
> > pix of these trees, too.
>
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