Bob-
One of the 'rules' of the volume references I emailed recently, chose the upper 
end of the first 16 foot log...now of course there's a practical reason for 
that (for lumbermen), but I'd suggest that the selection of a 16' height for 
diameter mitigated much if not all of the interface zones...
-DonRB



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Lists and Volume ModelingDate: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:37:58 -0500


Bob,
 
Yes that is the crux of the problem.  Some of the measurements are in the 
neloid zone, while others are above it.  BVP's idea of measuring higher is 
good, but there is always a counter of practicality. How can a measurement be 
made consistent and ideal at the same time?   Breast height is better than 
lower measurements, because the higher up the less less influence of basal 
flare.  But yes it is not ideal either.
 
Ed
 
"Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both. 
"Robert Frost (1874–1963). Mountain Interval. 1920. 

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.... A point I would make about the BH standard for modeling purposes. On some 
trees, 4.5 feet up is still in the neiloid zone. On other trunks, 4.5 feet is 
in the zone of the paraboloid or cone shape. Seldom will the 4.5-foot height 
coincide with an inflection point. If it did, it would be far more useful in 
tree modeling. BVP likes to go much higher up the trunk to get a circumference 
in order to volume model. He wants to be clear of the root flare influence - a 
point you well understand, Ed. ....
 
Bob 
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