Ed-
Thanks for posting!
BVP-
Excellent!  Scanning while saving to hard-drive...you've great graphics, and 
great 'co-conspirators'!   Couldn't find anything to disagree with... soon the 
be the seminal Washington old-growth reference!
-Don Bertolette



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [ENTS] Re: A West Coast 
PostingDate: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:36:42 -0500


Frank
 
Have you seen these documents on the Washington State DNR webpage:
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/ResearchScience/Topics/ForestResearch/Pages/lm_oldgrowth_guides.aspx
 

Identifying Mature & Old Forests in Washington  

 

Forested State Trust Lands
Identifying Old trees and Forests in Washington Robert Van Pelt
In connection with the Definition and Inventory of Old Growth Forests on 
DNR-Managed State Lands project, we have produced two guides to identifying old 
trees and forests in Washington: Identifying Mature and Old Forests in Western 
Washington and Identifying Old Trees and Forests in Eastern Washington, both 
written by Robert Van Pelt. 
The purpose of these guides is to help readers interpret the ecology, 
disturbance history, and age of a given stand or tree using environmental 
features, including the physical characteristics of the trees themselves. 
A working ecological understanding of the major tree species, the environments 
where they grow, and the dominant disturbance regimes at play in a given stand 
is required when reconstructing stand history and making determinations of tree 
and stand age. These guides are designed to provide the tools needed for such 
determinations.
Identifying Mature and Old Forests In Western Washington


Complete document (3,957KB PDF)
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Cover, Table of Contents, and Introduction (880KB PDF)  
Environmental Setting of Western Washington (478KB PDF)  
Stand Development in Natural Douglas Fir Forests (578KB PDF)  
Douglas Fir (Pseduotsuga menziesii) (687KB PDF)  
Sitka Spruce (Picea sitchensis) (387KB PDF)  
Noble Fir (Abies procera) (245KB PDF)  
Western Hemlock (Tsuga heterophylla) (354KB PDF)  
Western Redcedar (Thuja plicata) (206KB PDF)  
Pacific Silver Fir (Abies amabilis) (178KB PDF)  
Conclusion, Citations, and Appendix (99KB PDF) 
 
Identifying Old Trees and Forests In Eastern Washington (NEW October 2008)

Complete Document (25,791KB PDF)
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Cover, Table of Contents, and Introduction (1,857KB PDF)  
Ecological and Environmental Context (8,600KB PDF) 
Ponderosa Pine (Pinus ponderosa) (4,087KB PDF) 
Western Larch (Larix occidentalis) (4,575KB PDF) 
Douglas Fir (Pseudotsuga menziesii) (1,827KB PDF) 
Grand Fir (Abies grandis) (2,400KB PDF) 
Engelmann Spruce (Picea engelmannii) - Subalpine Fir (Abies bifolia) Forests 
(2,307KB PDF) 
Westside Species (585KB PDF)
 


  Definition and Inventory of Old Growth Forests on DNR-Managed State Lands  
(2,790KB  PDF) 
  Extent and Distribution of Old Forest Conditions on DNR-Managed State Trust 
Lands in Eastern Washington  (1,624KB  PDF) 
  The Case for Active Management of Dry Forest Types in Eastern Washington  
(9,829KB  PDF) 
 
"Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both. 
"Robert Frost (1874–1963). Mountain Interval. 1920. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Frank Blau 
To: ENTSTrees 
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:26 PM
Subject: [ENTS] A West Coast Posting
Ad Ed's suggestion, even though I am in Western Washington, I havejoined this 
interesting and helpful group!Are there any other westerners on here?I am 
interested in learning more about doing Urban and Suburban treesurveys. I have 
the right equipment, and I have a great park adjacentto our house to start in. 
It has mostly Douglas Firs and some RedCedar trees.The area was logged in the 
1930's, so no real old growth here, but Ihave found some of the older trees in 
this park... a beautiful 160'tall Dougas fir with a 38.2" DBH trunk sits about 
40' from where I amwriting this! An adjacent DF fell in a windstorm last year 
and afterthey cut it up I was able to count the rings and give it an age of 
72years.I know there are a lot older trees in my state, but I am currentlyvery 
interested in my local park. My motivation is partially topreserve the trees 
that we do have, but also to be more aware of mylocal surroundings and the 
ecosystems that we pass through ever day.I look forward to sharing this journey 
with this group and tohopefully meet some other local people engaged in similar 
pursuits!Frank BlauSammamish, 
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