Hey good thoughts here regarding the demise of the hemlocks in the 1906 
postcard, however, I would argue against the premise that all conifers are  
considered pioneer species in forest succession, hemlock is not.  Consider 
this, pioneer species are not shade tolerant, hemlock is, pioneer species are 
short-lived (typically 50-60 years) hemlock is longer lived (some up to 600 
years depending on site dynamics).  While the only reliable determination for 
tree age is limited to ring-count, I would hedge that the hardwoods in the 
current photo are not older than 60-75 years.  This would line up with 
potential HWA demise time period of the hemlocks within this region of the 
country. Does anyone know the HWA history of this park?

Steve Springer
Urban Forester
City of Bartlett

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Will Fell
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:18 AM
To: ENTSTrees
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Hemlock view 1906/2009


That is a beautiful area....it is great the city saved it as a park.
While the HWA is taking it's toll on the hemlock, I would suspect that
the demise of the hemlocks in the old postcard probably predated the
appearance of the HWA. Many conifers are frequently replaced by
deciduous trees in an undisturbed forest, unless there is some
disturbance or other factor such as frequest fire the holds the forest
in a subclimax stage like the outer coastal plain of the southeast.

What is the purpose of the cables and banners over the river in the
background?

On Mar 26, 5:17 pm, JennyNYC <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ed suggested I take current pictures of the sites of the old postcards
> I posted earlier of NYBG in the early days. Here is a colored photo
> taken in 1906 and 3 pictures in the exact same location taken
> yesterday. Even though the hardwoods have not leafed out, it's
> apparent what is sadly missing....
>
> Jenny
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/JennifDudley/HemlocksThenAndNow?feat=dire...


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