Link above didn't work: http://picasaweb.google.com/JennifDudley/HemlockStumps?feat=directlink
On Apr 11, 2:11 pm, JennyNYC <[email protected]> wrote: > Ed, > > I only found a couple of rotting stumps from old hemlocks at NYBG. > Here's the link to the pix. First set is 1 tree, then some that may > have been young at the time that old postcard pic was taken, then a > set of stump pix from a second tree. I don't really know how to count > rings but I'll give it a shot > > http://picasaweb.google.com/JennifDudley/HemlockStumps02?authkey=Gv1s... > > The forest was never clear cut for timber or farming. But by the > 1920s, the hemlocks were not regenerating well. Way too much habitat > disturbance. There was a lot of hemlock sapling planting that took > place after that - but I don't know when they stopped doing it. > > Thanks - > Jenny > > On Apr 9, 10:29 am, JennyNYC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ed, > > > That's a great idea. I'll look for some stumps under all the > > 'rubble'. And thanks for the link, I'll take a look. > > > I do know something about the history and have some data about the > > decline throughout the 20th century. But the staff is strangely > > uninformed about this topic. Maybe because they are post-hemlock grove > > people. I'm working with an arborist tomorrow at NYBG, so maybe I can > > get him to do some investigating with me. > > > Jenny > > > On Apr 8, 11:49 pm, "Edward Frank" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jenny, > > > > Do you know anything of the history of the hemlock groves? It looks like > > > in > > > your first historical photo from 100 years ago, (1 of 12) that most of the > > > hemlocks in the image are fairly young - judging from size and form. Was > > > the area logged first and these were regrowth from timbering in the early > > > to > > > mid 1800's? They are cutting down some of the larger dead hemlocks as you > > > said from the yellow marking tape (4 of 12) , are there any cut stumps > > > from > > > which you could get any ring counts? I am curious about the age of the > > > hemlocks in the stand (even if they are now dead.) looking at the ITRDB I > > > don't see any series of dates from hemlocks there in the Bronx > > > (http://hurricane.ncdc.noaa.gov/pls/paleo/fm_createpages.treering). > > > > Ed Frank > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "JennyNYC" <[email protected]> > > > To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:15 PM > > > Subject: [ENTS] Early succession in the dead Hemlock Grove > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I am trying to identify the vegetative species coming up in the old > > > > hemlock groves at NYBG. As far as natives, I see Black Cherry (Prunus > > > > serotina), White Ash, Red Maple, and Beech, and (I think) sweet gum, > > > > so far. Are these the same species more or less that you all are > > > > seeing in different parts of the east in old hemlock habitats? Or in > > > > any recovering habitats, for that matter? > > > > > I found an old closed-off Hemlock trail at NYBG and took some pix, if > > > > you want to take a look (there are 3 happy pix at the end!!! You > > > > wouldn't believe they were taken in the Bronx NYC). The first photo is > > > > the entrance to that same path 100 years ago. Also, the yellow tape > > > > around one of the trees is a hemlock they are planning to cut down. > > > > >http://picasaweb.google.com/JennifDudley/OldHemlockTrailNYBG?feat=dir... > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jenny --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
