Paul,
Thanks for these links. There seems to be some irony in "cutting down an old tree to create an organic garden," is there not!? Steve Springer ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Zorzin Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Spam: [ENTS] Re: Monster red spruce I have somewhere a book showing some immense trees at president Washington's mansion. Any record breakers there? Has the estate's trees been studied by any of you ENTS? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Jost <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: [ENTS] Re: Monster red spruce Well, I read a new story on April 1 about Obama personally cutting down one of the oldest presidential trees to make room for an organic garden on the white house grounds!!!!! Fool! Anyway, some creative Google'ing comes up with quite a few of them, but no attempts at lists seem to be there. If you are really serious, try contacting someone at: http://www.whitehousehistory.org/ http://www.annistonmuseum.org/White_House_Garden/ Regards, Paul J. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Steven Springer <[email protected]> wrote: ENTS, I sailed this request a while back with no response, so I will try once more: does anyone know about any tree survey work done regarding the Presidential trees planted within the grounds of the White House? We know that many presidents, perhaps most, have planted a tree during their term (e.g. Andrew Jackson-Magnolias, George W. Bush-American chestnut). Steve Springer ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Will Blozan Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Monster red spruce ENTS, While completing hemlock woolly adelgid treatments in the Smokies this past winter I was required to walk nearly 75 miles of roads. This gave me the opportunity to slow down my pace I normally pass through and see more of the vegetation by the road. In addition to finding various exotics such as pecan and white poplar, I also found a new occurrence of a rare, artic orchid in TN (Goodyera repens). <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.5&disp= emb&realattid=0.1&zw> View of Anakeesta Ridge, TN from US 441 with old-growth red spruce. Gray skeletons are dead hemlock and some spruce and Fraser fir snags. <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.7&disp= emb&realattid=0.2&zw> Foggy valley below (Deep Creek, NC) <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.1&disp= emb&realattid=0.3&zw> Getting ready for treatments at Newfound Gap NC/TN state line <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.6&disp= emb&realattid=0.4&zw> Ancient red spruce in the West Prong Little Pigeon River watershed, TN I located several specimens of native tree that I either measured or plan to return to measure. While walking the main Transmountain Highway (US 441) from Newfound Gap to Gatlinburg I spotted what I at first thought was a really nice, healthy hemlock. It had the growth form, taper, and size of a large specimen. As I poked through the rhododendron to go treat it I soon realized it was not a hemlock but a massive red spruce. This tree, with scaly bark, was not expected since the elevation was a bit below the normal range for such a large spruce. <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.2&disp= emb&realattid=0.5&zw> <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.4&disp= emb&realattid=0.6&zw> <http://?ui=2&ik=008fef4316&view=att&th=1210d7a354c90ed3&attid=0.3&disp= emb&realattid=0.7&zw> Without a doubt, this is the largest specimen I have ever seen! At 12'4" cbh X 133.1' it is among the largest girths known and attains a respectable height (there is one in this area that exceeds 150' tall). It is likely this tree may be the largest in volume for the species that ENTS knows of. Of course, I plan to climb it and will probably also map the crown for a 3-D model. It has some serious gnarl and the beginnings of a large reiteration. Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. <BR --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
