Will,

You definitely should join the WNTS.  You have had a few trips to the western 
United States and the descriptions are certainly worth sharing with members of 
WNTS.  I forwarded your comments on your climb to the group.  Funding and 
climbing this tall white fir in California and Bob's findings in Colorado 
demonstrate how for many species the surface has barely bee touched with 
respect to their maximum heights.  The same can be sad for the maximum ages for 
most species, and many other ecological concepts and measurements. Sounds like 
you had a great trip.

Ed Frank 

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. 
It is the source of all true art and all science." - Albert Einstein
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Frank 
  To: Western Native Tree Society 
  Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:39 PM
  Subject: [WNTS] Re: California White Fir



  From: Will Blozan
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:40 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: Scattered ENTS


  Don,



  The fir was in old-growth among the largest sequoias and the second
  growth sequioa was on a very productive site with several old-growth
  relics just under or lightly over 300’. In fact, the tallest second-
  growth tree was growing across the stream from a ~298 footer. The
  Whitaker Forest was one of the first groves ever cut so it is also the
  oldest second-growth from which to sample. The Converse Basin was cut
  around the same time but the folks I was with feel the site was not as
  productive as the groves on Redwood Mountain. BTW, Whitaker Forest is
  adjacent to and contiguous with the Redwood Canyon Grove (Kings Canyon
  NP- largest grove left on earth).



  Will F. Blozan

  President, Eastern Native Tree Society

  President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
  
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