Carl-
If you're preference is to stay in Southern Arizona, there are a number of "sky 
islands" which are a series of islands that rise up out of an old sea bed, what 
you and I might call mountains.  To the south and east and immediately to the 
east of Tucson is Mt. Lemmon, which suffered the indignity of a wildfire during 
the last decade. I know that it devastated the little town up there, but 
haven't seen where the fire went...if you're in a sturdy pickup, you can head 
south to Florence and Oracle and take an interesting backroad up the backside 
of Mt. Lemmon (9157').  The LARGEST WILD sycamore trees I've ever seen were 
along this backroad IN a campground that I believe was called Peppersauce 
Cmpgd, or something like that.  Very nice campground, shaded. Dozens of 
sycamores. Going up the backside of Mt. Lemmon, you rise up out of the desert, 
and pass through several vegetation zones, ending up in a subalpine veg zone, 
as I recall.
Two more mountain ranges of note are the Pinalenos and the Chiricauhuas...the 
Pinalenos are north of Willcox (which is on I-10 East heading towards New 
Mexico border), and is home to the Mt Graham (10720') observatory, and again a 
subalpine veg zone. South of I-10 are the Chiracauhua mountains (9759') with a 
mountain road that ascends to a pass (high as you're going to get without 
hiking) and down into Paradise and Portal...this area is incredibly interesting 
geologically and biologically, with very special habitats...birders love this 
area and well they should...lifelisters make it a 'must-do'.

But it's hot as heck down there, and I'd personally recommend running up from 
Phoenix onto the Moggolon Rim, so you can pass through the largest contiguous 
ponderosa pine forest in the world.  There are some big trees still left (Long 
Valley I'm told has some, and is in between Strawberry and Happy Jack which is 
a nice ponderosa forest road that will take you into the back way to 
Flagstaff).  Immediately to the north of Flagstaff are the San Francisco Peaks 
(12,633', rising above the town of Flagstaff at 6500'), with a road that 
accesses the sky area at around 9000', with trails that access the north 
side...Schultz Road crosses over the base from east to west on the south side 
of the Peaks...the Peaks were made famous among ecologists in 1890 by C.H. 
Miriam who recognized that the vegetation zones that occupied the Peaks had 
latitudinal equivalents that ranged from sonoran desert to alpine.

These vegetative communities represent a relict alpine tundra
                                                  flora definitely related to 
the high peaks tundra of the Rocky
                                                  Mountains north and northeast 
(Moore, 
                                                  1965). Twenty of about 50 
species of
                                                  the alpine tundra flora on 
San Francisco Peaks are
                                                  arctic-alpine disjuncts that 
also live in arctic tundra zones. Fifteen of the
                                                  20 are circumpolar, growing 
in Arctic Eurasia as well as
                                                  Arctic North America. Moore (
                                                  1965) believed that at least 
90 percent
                                                  of the alpine tundra vascular 
species on San Francisco
                                                  Peaks migrated from the north 
during Pleistocene time, possibly as
                                                  recently as 65,000 to 75,000 
years ago, coinciding with the last period of
                                                  glaciation described by Sharp 
(
                                                  1942). Updike
                                                  and Péwé (
                                                  1976) provided evidence of 
more recent
                                                  glaciation. However, this 
last glaciation in the San Francisco
                                                  Peaks was fairly limited in 
areal extent. Moore (
                                                  1965) suggested further that 
relict
                                                  alpine tundra on San 
Francisco Peaks has been losing its
                                                  true alpine tundra character 
for at least 10,000 years. 
               

This from http://southwest.library.arizona.edu/azso/body.1_div.4.html
as well as this probably helpful summary of AZ spruce-fir forest species:

Spruce-alpine fir forests cover about
                                                  97,130 ha (240,000 ac) on and 
around the summits of the highest mountains,
                                                  including San Francisco Peaks 
and the Chuska, White, Pinaleno and Chiricahua mountains, and
                                                  on the large summit area of 
the Kaibab Plateau. These
                                                  Rocky Mountain forests reach 
their southernmost extension
                                                  in Arizona and New Mexico 
(Dye and Moir, 
                                                  1977). Spruce-alpine fir 
forests generally lie between 2,430 to
                                                  2,730 m (8,000 to 9,000 ft) 
and extend to the mountain summits, except for
                                                  San Francisco Peaks where the 
upper limit is
                                                  approximately 3,490 m (11,500 
ft). The mean annual precipitation ranges from
                                                  760 to 1,140 mm (30 to 45 
in), much of it as snow, and exceeds mean annual
                                                  potential evapotranspiration 
(Beschta, 
                                                  1976).
               Seven coniferous and one deciduous species variously mixed
                                                  characterize these forests. 
The principal boreal conifers are Engelmann spruce,
                                                  blue spruce, corkbark fir, 
white fir, Douglas fir,
                                                  bristlecone pine and limber 
pine. 
                                                  Quaking aspen is the dominant 
deciduous
                                                  species, both intermixed with 
various coniferous species and in pure
                                                  stands. Dense overstories 
common to these forests severely limit or
                                                  prevent growth of herbaceous 
vegetation. Quaking aspen is considered to be a
                                                  seral species that invades an 
area following a disturbance such as fire.
               
Moir and Ludwig (
                                                  1979) have classified the
                                                  Lowe and Brown (
                                                  1973) spruce-alpine fir 
forests into
                                                  eight spruce-fir and 11 mixed 
conifer habitat types based on the concept of
                                                  Daubenmire and Daubenmire (
                                                  1968). The dominant climax 
species
                                                  within the spruce-fir 
habitats are either Engelmann spruce or corkbark fir.
                                                  Climax dominants or 
codominants in the mixed conifer habitats include white
                                                  fir, blue spruce and Douglas 
fir. Kuchler's (
                                                  1964) southwestern spruce-fir 
forest
                                                  and spruce-fir-Douglas fir 
forest zones are included
                                                  within the spruce-alpine fir 
forest zone on the vegetation map (Plate 11).
 
                                        
                
                                        
                              
But if I had only a couple of days, and again a sturdy truck or passable SUV, 
I'd drive directly north for hours and hours and go to the North Rim of the 
Grand Canyon.  You can take a back road (if it hasn't been made a wilderness 
yet) that accesses Fire Point, Swamp Point which are in very much undisturbed 
classic ponderosa pine old-growth forest, and to really see them with the most 
minimal disturbance, drop down from Swamp Point, down through a saddle to the 
west, and up to the Powell Plateau, where the Plateau is isolated by the hike 
down and up, and by the relatively remote location...much of the research on 
ponderosa pine fire behavior has been done there because of its uniquely 
undisturbed state. Otherwise, just taking state highway 64 down from Jacob Lake 
(best cookies at the bakery there, and the thickest best milkshakes in ALL of 
Arizona).
Hope this helps, it's been fun bringing back up great memories of a great place.
-Don

> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:12:26 -0700
> Subject: [ENTS] Arizona Forests
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> I'll be traveling to Phoenix later in the month for work and have a
> couple free days to see what Arizona has to offer.  Can anyone
> recommend a few interesting forests in northern Arizona or southern
> Utah?  I'll bring my laser and clinometer just in case.
> 
> Carl
> > 

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