They aren't so much invasive as a tenacious agricultural pest.  In a  
field they'll keep coming up year after year in the same places.  You  
have to spray them, hard, To get rid of them.
I was just relating to the practical impossibility of getting rid of  
certain things, not trying to say they were a problem in wildlands.   
In ohio at least, all annual weeds that persist in agricultural  
fields, get squeezed out by goldenrods and grasses after 3-4 seasons.

On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Barry Caselli wrote:

> I guess thistle could be invasive, but fortunately it's an annual.
> There's an extremely tall species of Boneset (Eupatorium spp.) that  
> grows on our property now and is becoming invasive. It's been taking  
> over my perennial beds at the front of the house. I'm pretty sure I  
> collected seed from some on a roadside several years ago, but I  
> never expected them to take over.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Randy Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Randy Brown <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Invasive plants and trees
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:35 PM
>
> <<Shrug>>  True you don't see these much in the woods.   I just  
> assumed others were familiar with gardening.  These are two worst to  
> get rid of.  They both have extensive root systems and are near  
> impossible to pull it all out.  You think you got enough but they  
> always sprout up again.
>
> On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Barry Caselli wrote:
>
>> Fortunately I've never seen dandelion in the wild. It's in our yard  
>> and other yards and such, but that's all.
>> Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing any this year at all,  
>> at least not in OUR yard. As for garlic mustard, that's something I  
>> never heard of, except in this group.
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Randy Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> From: Randy Brown <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Invasive plants and trees
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:29 PM
>>
>>
>> dandelion and thistle's anyone?
>>
>> I did have some luck knocking back garlic mustard at a local
>> metropark.  I pulled it out for three years and has
>> almost vanished in certain areas.  Not sure I was the only on doing  
>> it
>> though.
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:54 AM, pabigtrees wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Ed, Jenny,Barry
>> >
>> > Cornell was doing some testing a few years ago in search of the  
>> native
>> > Phragmite.  I don't know if it is still going on.  I think when  
>> some
>> > of the aggressive non native plants are introduced, and they have a
>> > cousin of the same genus, they hybridize to the point that there  
>> are
>> > very few of either pure stock left.  Bittersweet, mulberry, and
>> > Phragmite would be examples.
>> >
>> > Barry
>> >
>> > multiflora rose is asian and there are native and non native
>> > bittersweets.
>> >
>> > After fighting invasives for seven years, I have concluded that  
>> it is
>> > a waste of resources attempting to erradicate these species.  I  
>> have
>> > weed wrenched, pulled dabbed with chemical, and sprayed.  They  
>> always
>> > come back. Some never die all the way (Japanese knotweed)  Others  
>> have
>> > such an extensive seed bed that you have to keep at it for several
>> > years.  Some plants have been introduced since the early 1700's  
>> so I
>> > don't think we will exterminate them any time soon.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> > >
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