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Ed Frank On Aug 31, 11:43 pm, Ed Nizalowski <[email protected]> wrote: > Rob, > Where will you be going in Poland? Are you familiar with the > Bialowieza Forest? > > Ed Nizalowski > Newark Valley, NY > > > > Rob McBride wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > I thought you may like this > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/northeastwales/hi/people_and_places/natur... > > > It is being aired on BBC 1 Countryfile 13th Sept. 2009 > > > Regards, rob > > > PS Off to Poland this week tree hunting. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Gettysburg 'witness tree' falls > > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:55:14 -0400 > > > ENTS, > > > There are many trees that bore witness to the Battle at Gettysburg, > > but only a few stood on the battlefield itself. I know Dale has a > > pending trip report on te site. In the book "Old Growth in the East - > > a Survey" by Mary Byrd Davis there are some old-growth patches > > reported in Gettysburg national Military Park, including sections of > > Big Round Top. These include some of the stunted oaks growing among > > the boulders. > > /There are several specific patches identified:/ > > > /Big Round Top, 70 acres, White Oak, Northern Red Oak, White Ash, and > > Tulip Tree surround Big Round Top. Grazing and cutting of fuel wood > > probably took place, but boulders in the woods forestalled logging for > > agriculture./ > > > /Culps Hill, 10 acres, The stand is dominated by White and Northern > > Red Oak. Boulders surround the hill./ > > > /Philzer Woods, 10 acres, Selectively cut old growth are located in > > the woods. White Oak dominates./ > > > /Gettysburg National Military Park, 10 acres, Scattered through the Park./ > > > The park has been undergoing an effort to try to restore the landscape > > to what it was like during the battle. Missing forested areas are > > being replanted, overgrown fields are being cut back, old roads are > > being restored. There are photos of many of these areas dating from > > the 1860's taken because of the battle, so we could see some of these > > trees as they were 145 years ago. Much of this information has been > > compiled as part of the battlefield restoration effort. > > > This past summer a series of Basttlefield tours led by Tour Guides on > > the anniverary of the battled were broadcasr on a television program > > on PCN. One tour on Big Round Top showed two giant trees flanking a > > series iof step leading to the top of the hill from the 1890s. Since > > then one of these trees has fallen, but the other still stands. I > > emailed one of the registerd guides, Tim Smith about a question I had > > concerning the forests there. Here is part of his reply: > > > /I think most of the areas of woods on the battlefield are much > > different today then they were at the time of the Civil War. There > > are photographs taken after the battle that show the woods without > > undergrowth. And an expert might be able to identify the types of > > trees in the photograph. I am sure that the species are quite > > different. I am not sure how many trees still stand that were her at > > the time, but I will bet it is not many. The area of Culp's Hill saw > > heavy fighting and the trees died off in great numbers in the space > > of a few years following the battle. Big Round Top, where the > > fighting was not as severe, probably retained more of its Civil War > > appearance, but once it became a National Park, little has been done > > to keep it the way it was. / > > > /I would guess that the use of wooded areas as woodlots had alot to do > > with their appearance at the time. Farmers clearing trees for lumber > > and heating material, or for the making of furniture. In many areas, > > livestock grazed in the woods further eliminating the underbrush. > > And of course, I loved what you said about the canopy of an old growth > > forest as opposed to a young growth forrest./ > > / > > / > > /Also, through a study of Photograph from the time of the Civil War, > > it appears that the trees at the time of the battle were shorter, all > > over the field. I am not really sure what that means. Different > > species, perhaps?/ > > // > > / If a tree falls down today the NPS just leaves it lay. This > > simply would not have happened at that time. Today the woods on the > > battlefield look nothing like they did at the time of the Civil War. > > Felled trees are everywhere and underbrush is out of control. I am > > sure that the park has some sort of plan, but I am not sure what it is./ > > / > > / > > /Tim Smith/ > > > On the American Forests website, the honey locust was one of the trees > > whose offspring were offered for sale as part of their historic tree > > program: > > > /Gettysburg Address Honey Locust/ > > // > > > /On a somber November morning in 1863, Abraham Lincoln arrived in > > Gettysburg , Pennsylvania . He was to take part in dedicating the new > > "Soldiers Cemetery", graves of over 3,500 souls from the July battle > > there. While Lincoln 's speech lasted only minutes, its words still > > evoke the sadness of a nation torn by war. / > > > /$39,97/ > > > The last I heard the Park Service was trying to decide whether to try > > to [reserve the remaining portions of the tree or to remove it > > entirely. I would like to see the tree saved, even without its top. > > >http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/09/historic.tree.ap/index.html /"The > > top of it is totally broken off, and [the storm] severely damaged 70 > > to 80 percent of the tree," Gettysburg National Military Park > > spokeswoman Jo Sanders said. "That means there's not a whole lot left > > of it. But it didn't kill the tree."/ > > > There is a photograph of the fallen tree at this site: > >http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/pa/chester/20080809__quot_Witnes... > > > Here is an interesting > > aside.http://www.philorch.org/imaginations/wearemetatgettysburg/steve_diary... > > Friday, Sept 7, 2001 Journal for orchestral work about Gettysburg. by > > Steve Heitzig of the Philidelphia Orchestra: /12:05 pm EST "//I > > would like to compose a movement about the honey locust trees and > > other trees at Gettysburg that survived and witnessed this battle. > > Lincoln loved trees he has a famous quote about humans as trees. It is > > said that he sometimes preferred the company of trees over people. > > Perhaps a movement of just percussion and wood sounds for this." > > / > > > Ed Frank > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > *From:* pabigtrees > > *To:* ENTSTrees > > *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2008 6:57 PM > > *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Gettysburg 'witness tree' falls > > > ENTS > > > Honey Locust was discovered in 1700. It does grow in Pa up to Central > > Pa, naturally. It tends to be short lived though. It could very well > > have been planted, but it could still have been a witness. > > > The Park official said it was one of a few left within the > > battlefield, I bet he is thinking about where Pickett's charge > > occured in the open fields. I bet there are hundreds of witness' on > > little round top for sure!! 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