Ed

I just saw that new issue today at a friends house. I have a
subscription, so I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival.


Mike




On Sep 21, 10:12 am, Marcboston <[email protected]> wrote:
> In National Geographic Adventure, there is a synpopsis of the article
> too.
>
> On Sep 20, 2:17 pm, jon parker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the explanation Kouta!
>
> > 2009/9/20 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]>:
>
> > > Jon,
>
> > > The figures I mentioned are for the old-growth portion. From the
> > > description of the study area in the reference # 1 (see above): "An
> > > old stand of very large trees on alluvial flats within this
> > > biogeographic section was selected for study." That study finds the
> > > volume of coarse woody debris (inlcuding standing and fallen dead
> > > logs) to be 797 m3/ha and biomass 262 t/ha. Thus, dead aboveground
> > > material increases total volume and biomass values only 5.6-6.8%.
>
> > > Regarding the sign (if it really was 7 times higher), my guess is that
> > > they consider all the western coniferous forests belong to the same
> > > biome, and they simply have not had figures for big forests outside
> > > North America.
>
> > > - Kouta
>
> > >> I may have paraphrased the sign incorrectly, but it may have also been
> > >> referring to all of the dead trees on the ground as well.  Also I
> > >> believe it specifically meant the contiguous old-growth portion of
> > >> Rockefeller Forest, if that matters.  Nevertheless, agreed that even
> > >> 2-3.7 is amazing.
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Jon
>
> > >> 2009/9/19 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]>:
>
> > >> > Jon,
>
> > >> > I agree, Rockefeller Forest is a truly amazing place. However, the
> > >> > sign you saw:
>
> > >> >> I read a sign in the park that said Rockefeller Forest(the contiguous
> > >> >> old-growth portion of the park) contains seven times the biomass per 
> > >> >> acre,
> > >> >> living and dead, of any other biome on earth.
>
> > >> > seems to be overstated. Some figures:
>
> > >> > - a plot in Rockefeller Forest: total tree biomass 3857-4642 metric
> > >> > tons per hectare, Sequoia stem biomass 3442-4143 t/ha (1)
> > >> > - a plot in Goat Marsh RNA, Washington (mostly Noble Fir): stem
> > >> > biomass 1687 t/ha (2)
>
> > >> > In terms of wood volume:
>
> > >> > - Rockefeller Forest: Sequoia stem volume 9059 - 10903 cubic meters
> > >> > per hectare (1) or 8071 m3/ha (3)
> > >> > - a plot in Giant Forest (mostly Giant Sequoia): stem volume 3331 m3/
> > >> > ha (3)
> > >> > - the plot in Goat Marsh RNA: stem volume 3120 m3/ha (3)
> > >> > - Wallaby Creek stand in Kinglake National Park, Victoria, Australia
> > >> > (mostly Eucalyptus regnans): total volume 3270 m3/ha, main trunk
> > >> > volume 2973 m3/ha (4)
>
> > >> > The Wallaby Creek stand is mentioned to have highest measured total
> > >> > wood volume outside western North America (4). Unfortunately it burned
> > >> > earlier this year (5).
>
> > >> > Thus, biomass per acre in Rockefeller forest seems to be 2-3 times
> > >> > (not 7 times) higher than any other biome. Or if they consider all the
> > >> > western coniferous forests belong to the same biome, then 2.7-3.7
> > >> > times higher than any other biome. Of course, 2-3.7 time higher is
> > >> > incredible too.
>
> > >> > Hopefully BVP is reading this thread and provide corrections and
> > >> > updates.
>
> > >> > Sources:
> > >> > (1)http://www.springerlink.com/content/r4718838620l2713/fulltext.pdf
> > >> > (2)http://www.fs.fed.us/pnw/publications/pnw_1972_franklin001/Supplement...
> > >> > (3)http://article.pubs.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/RPAS/rpv?hm=HInit&afpf=x00-050.pdf...
> > >> > (4) Van Pelt, Sillett & Nadkarni (2004): Quantifying and Visualizing
> > >> > Canopy Structure in Tall Forests: Methods and a Case Study. In Lowman
> > >> > & Rinker (eds.): Forest Canopies, second edition. Elsevier.
> > >> > (5)http://www.parkweb.vic.gov.au/1park_display.cfm?park=121
>
> > >> > - Kouta- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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