Paul,

I have considered this.  It is my impression that the hawthorns are encroaching 
into the fields covered by the grass.  I think that many of the smaller 
hawthorns are younger than the age of the grass fields.  Shade intolerance 
could be a part of the effect I am seeing, but under other scattered trees of 
other species that occur within or surround the grassy areas the grass is 
growing underneath them without any of these visible differences. The shade 
from these trees do not seem to be limiting the growth of the grass. The grass 
does not seem to be affected noticeably by the shade of these trees and the 
hawthorns are not any more foliage dense than  these other species.    It is 
just under the hawthorns that I see this effect.  That is why I am think 
alleopathy rather than shade effects.  

Ed

"Oh, I call myself a scientist.  I wear a white coat and probe a monkey every 
now and then, but if I put monetary gain ahead of preserving nature...I 
couldn't live with myself" - Professor Hubert Farnsworth
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Jost 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:15 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: Alleopathy


  Ed,

  I wonder if those hawthorns predate the reed canary grass and if the reed 
canary grass is too shade intolerant to grow underneath them?  I've seen 
similar effects with hawthorns over other grasses.

  Paul

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