Will, Understood. Thanks to you and the others who answered me on this. It makes sense now. On another note, I still want to host an ENTS outing for a couple days, sometime. The cedar I just shot on video recently (I hope some of you saw it) will be included in the outing, as will the Pitch Pine down in Estell Manor. I'd love to have a height for those trees. This outing kind of slipped away from me, but I still want to do it. I don't know when. Barry
--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Will Blozan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Will Blozan <[email protected]> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Sequoia adventures 7/2-7/9/2009 - Day 3-5- TALLEST SEQUOIA! To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 10:55 AM Barry, Initially I thought, as a member of ENTS, that your question was a joke. Basically, the most complete understanding of the trees we love is needed for study, preservation, and management. I chose to study the eastern hemlock so researchers, managers, and conservationists in the future will at least have a baseline for restoration. Your question is not easy to answer but for me, being most interested in the superlatives of our native species, the opportunity for gathering this information is quickly disappearing. For some, like American chestnut, Fraser fir, and your beloved Atlantic white cedar- we will NEVER know what they were capable of. Same can be said for other species and if we were to lose the sequoias tomorrow we would at least know what they were capable of and what to strive for in the future. Still, it may not matter at all to you at all but for the vast majority of the ENTS founders- this is part of our mission. What you do with the cedars is no different. Why do you carry a tape and measure the cedars? Well, it is a basic reference or baseline with which to compare other trees. You do it on a basic level and others take it to a higher level. Measurements are the basis for what we ENT’s do. Otherwise we would be an interest group of “nice trees” or “big but I don’t know how big trees”. ENTS pushes the limits of dendromorphometry and as a result earns the description on the webpage of “ENTS is the premiere tree measuring group of the eastern forest. Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Barry Caselli Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Re: Sequoia adventures 7/2-7/9/2009 - Day 3-5- TALLEST SEQUOIA! Awesome pictures of a beautiful tree, with an interesting report too. But what I'd like to know, what I've been wondering about, is why bother with all this mapping and modeling? Yeah I understand wanting to know the height of a tree, the diameter and circumference, and the crown spread, but why the rest, what you did here? What's the point in knowing? Maybe it's a dumb question, but I've finally decided to ask. Thanks --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Will Blozan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Will Blozan <[email protected]> Subject: [ENTS] Sequoia adventures 7/2-7/9/2009 - Day 3-5- TALLEST SEQUOIA! WNTS/ENTS, The time had come for the 3-D mapping and volume modeling of the World’s tallest known giant sequoia. Growing just over the ridge from Whitaker Forest , this tree had been rigged and tape-dropped but the entire mapping process- including foliar, twig and cone sub-sampling- had not yet been performed. Two mapping teams were assembled for this project which was expected to span a full three days. Steve Sillett and Marie Antoine were one team and Bob Van Pelt and I the other. At 94.8 meters (311’) this tree stands just centimeters taller than another tree in Redwood Canyon .</table --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
