Tim
Tony DeAmato dated a red spruce on Greylock to 411 years. I've
dated them to around 250. Massachusetts definitely has some ancient
red spruce. Locations where I've seen old red spruce in include:
Mt Greylock SR
Savoy Mtn SF
Mohawk Trail SF
Windsor Jambs
Monroe SF
Power Co land in Deerfield Gorge
There are other sites with moderately old spruce (150 - 200 yrs),
but usually not many.
Bob
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On Oct 20, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Timothy Zelazo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ed & Bob:
>
> I just measured 7 feet along a phone cord, then I made a circle to
> give me a visual size of a 7' girth. Some of the Red Spruce girths
> maybe were 6' or 7'. Are the spruce 150 plus years old? I didn't
> take many photos because it was raining hard and the camera lens was
> always covered with water. I need to hug a few trees and see what
> my arm span is so I can always have a gauge with me. I think some
> of the spruce had a 2 foot dbh. Next time I head up slope, I'll put
> my ENTS hat on.
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Edward Frank <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Tim, Bob,
>
> I am not sure what a good size would be for Red Spruce in Mass. One
> comment though is that pockets of trees left behind by logging,
> those specimens at the limits of their range, or existing as
> disjunct populations are not always the largest of their species.
> Indeed they are often stunted and small in size when compared to
> those in the heart of their range which belies the actual age of the
> specimens. When looking at uncommon species like this, you should
> be considering how old they might be based upon their form and
> associated trees and not jus ton size. Exemplary size should not be
> the only criterion for determining the worth of a site or tree
> specimen, or whether or not it is worth documenting, or studying.
>
> Ed
>
> "Oh, I call myself a scientist. I wear a white coat and probe a
> monkey every now and then, but if I put monetary gain ahead of
> preserving nature...I couldn't live with myself." - Professor Hubert
> Farnsworth
>
>
>
>
> >
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