Barry:

I hope I don't ever feel any shame for using perfectly good white pines to
build my timber frame house.

Tim

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Barry Caselli <[email protected]>wrote:

> To me it seems a terrrible shame to waste a perfectly good dogwood tree to
> make a walking stick.
>
> --- On *Sat, 10/31/09, [email protected] <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ENTS] What's the hardest hardwood walking stick examples
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:21 AM
>
>
>  ENTS:
>
> Of all the smaller eastern trees I would give dogwood, Cornus florida a
> vote for one of the hardest woods.  Over the years I have used all sorts of
> woods for walking sticks and I have found that dogwood does not split or
> splinter like hickory and it doesn't shred or warp like hophornbeam.
> Hornbeam, Carpinus caroliniana, seems to be fairly soft, it is easy to cut
> with a knife it splits extremely easily and it will rot while you are
> looking at it.
>
> Ostrya viginiana, hophornbeam splits extremely easily and warps very
> badly.
>
> Walking sticks made out of dogwood never split on the point end and with
> daily use will wear at a rate of less than half an inch a year.  Nothing
> else compares in terms of wear and no tree I have tried for a walking stick
> has been more stable than dogwood is once it has seasoned.
>
> Oak and ash walking sticks break much easier than dogwood and are much
> heavier
>
> If you make a walking stick out of dogwood it is best to dig out the entire
> tree and trim the roots with loppers.  The best size tree is, usually about
> 1" in diameter and has a straight stem for at least four feet above the root
> collar.  Carve the handle out of the root ball.  You can almost always get a
> very comfortable hook to it.  In my walks around the steep hills of WV a
> dogwood walking stick has become my third leg....the one that never slips.
>
> When freshly, cut a dogwood tree can be carved into a walking stick with
> just a jack knife but once it dries it is like trying to carve bone.
>
> When completely dried the wood is very light, which would mean it is weak
> if one of the measures of strength is density.
>
> The walking stick in the photo is over five years old.  The patina that
> develops from long term use makes it very comfortable to hold and after
> several years of use it becomes a fairly reliable tool.....that hook on the
> end is extremely helpful to pull the tip of a 10' high limb down close
> enough to tie plastic ribbon when you are marking a trail in dense brush.
>
> Other woods may be slightly harder in certain uses but nothing I've
> encountered compares to the utility of a dogwood tree.
>
>
> Russ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Zelazo <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 1:52 pm
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: What's the hardest hardwood?
>
> Carpinus caroliniana is American hornbeam (bluebeech, water beech) and
> Ostrya virginiana is Eastern hophornbeam and had the common name "ironwood"
> often applied to this species.  The Textbook of Dendrology by Harlow and
> Harrar Fifth Edition published by McGraw-Hill.  This was the info they were
> pushing over thirty years ago when I studied forestry.  The two trees look
> very different in the forest.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Josh Kelly 
> <[email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> On the contrary, I think I noted hop hornbeam (Ostrya virgiana) in my
>> earlier post.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Oct 31, 1:11 pm, DON BERTOLETTE 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>> > Josh-
>> >
>> > I guess that 'ironwood' (aka eastern hophornmeam, American hornbeam,
>> Ostrya virginiana; member of the Betulaceae), member of the  doesn't rate in
>> this exotic group?
>> >
>> > -Don
>> >
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