John, I don't suppose Liriodendron is growing that far north? I have wondered for a long time what might be growing in isolated coves in MA/NY border in NW MA.
Gary On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:43 PM, John Eichholz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bob, > > At about 350 meters elevation, rich cove soil, and cove walls that > shelter the drying summer sun, this cove fits the search image for ash > to a tee. The ash trees along the stream channel of Meadow Brook are > of a different character, and have more competition from white pine. > With the right combination of age and site a 150' pine, or at least > 140', is not out of the question in some of the seep areas near the > brook. > > John > > > > On Nov 8, 6:23 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> John, >> >> This definitely gets more interesting. I've thought for sometime >> that the Deerfield River corridor may well be the best in the >> Northeast, and certainly New England, for tall white ash trees. I'm >> very impressed. Gotta see it. >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Eichholz" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2009 2:59:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >> Eastern >> Subject: [ENTS] Catamount -- a further look >> >> My first few visits to Catamount were short, but by getting a >> Rucker index for the site, it seemed this site has further >> potential. My visit today confirmed that thought. >> >> After consulting the topo map for the area, I selected a steep cove >> leading to McLeod Pond to look at On the way there I passed many >> old oak trees in the 95' to 100' range. As the terrain gave way to >> the cove, there were intermixed older bitternut hickory, sugar >> maple and white ash, along with a tall and skinny next generation. >> I was able to find a bitternut hickory to 115.0'h, sugar maple to >> 115.1' and 115.0', and black cherry at 109.2'. Then I started in on >> the ash, and the farther down I went the taller they got, until I >> topped out at 142.3'! Another ash measured 139.6'h x 10.8'c. This >> area is similar to the coves in the Zoar Gap area of Clark >> Mountain, except shorter, as it runs quickly to the lake. >> >> Bob,if you like we could go out and take a look. I think you will >> like it! I haven't sampled much in the pines, but I have found a >> few 130's. >> >> An update to the Rucker index: >> >> Species height cbh >> >> WA 142.3' 6.7' >> >> WP 134.2' 9.5' >> >> SM 115.1' 5.2' >> >> BNH 115.0' 3.9' >> >> BC 109.2' 4.6' >> >> RO 106.7' 7.1' >> >> RM 104.4' 3.5' >> >> BB 103.9' 3.6' >> >> ABW 103.4' 4.0' >> >> EH 102.2' 5.0' >> >> RI 10 113.6 >> >> John > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
