Steve,

I have read descriptions of the species that say that almost all of the catalpa 
in the NE are Southern Catalpa.

Ed

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Galehouse 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [ENTS] Evening reflections


  Ed, Bob, ENTS-

  Northern Catalpa is the common ornamental species, and it gets big--60-80' 
here in N Ohio, Southern Catalpa is much smaller and more multi-stemmed. I 
think the vast majority of Catalpas planted in the NE or Midwest are Northern.

  Steve


  On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

    Ed,


    Thanks. I'm 90% sure the Catalpas up here are northern, but as I said to 
Barry, I'll check.


    Bob

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Edward Frank" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]

    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:38:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
    Subject: Re: [ENTS] Evening reflections


    Bob,

    The best Catalpa key I have found I added to the ENTS website here:

    http://www.nativetreesociety.org/species/catalpa.htm

    The best identification is when the leaves are still green - Northern 
Catalpa leaves don't have an odor when crushed, while southern catalpa leaves 
have an unpleasant odor.

    Ed

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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bob 
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      Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:29 PM
      Subject: Re: [ENTS] Evening reflections


      Barry


           I'll take your advice. I'm relatively sure I know which species, but 
wouldn't swear to it.


      Bob

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      On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Barry Caselli <[email protected]> 
wrote:


              Bob,
              FYI, you ought to narrow down which species of Catalpa you have 
there. I've been told that the two species are difficult to tell apart though. 
I only know which one we have from asking a naturalist I know. Oops. I forgot 
to look at the pictures. Doh! I'll do that now.
              Barry

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                From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
                Subject: [ENTS] Evening reflections
                To: [email protected]
                Cc: "Weiss, Nancy" <[email protected]>, "SCHRATER, FAYE" 
<[email protected]>, "Kaiser, Amy" <[email protected]>, "Blaich, 
Tanya" <[email protected]>, "Belchetz-Swenson, Sarah" 
<[email protected]>, "Loomis, Rob " <[email protected]>, "Ricci, 
Heidi" <[email protected]>, "Dittmer, Paul" <[email protected]>, 
"Williams, Bill" <[email protected]>
                Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:44 PM


                ENTS, 


                Monica and I took advantage of the gorgeous weather this 
afternoon and took our birch bark canoe out on little Fitzgerald Lake.  The 
lake is about a third of a mile from our front door. It is part of a nearly 
700-acre conservation area. I have sent quite a few images of it in the past. 
I'll not comment on the individual images. They pretty well speak for 
themselves. 


                I am involved with the Broad Brook Coalition, which helps the 
City of Northampton manage the Fitzgerald Lake Conservation Area. My role is to 
help with the interpretive services. We are going to identify the tree species 
visible from along the trail network and provide information on each species in 
a brochure. In addition to identification information, my idea is to provide 10 
interesting facts about each species. Any suggestions/recommendations on what 
might be of greatest interest for any of the following species would be greatly 
appreciated.


                N. red oak Black oak Chestnut oak White oak Scarlet oak
                Sugar maple Red maple Striped Maple


                Yellow birch White birch Black birch


                Red elm A. basswood A. hornbeam Hop hornbeam


                Eastern cottonwood Bigtooth aspen Quaking aspen


                Black cherry Witch hazel Flowering dogwood 


                Black locust A. chestnut A. beech


                White ash Green ash Catalpa Staghorn sumac


                Pignut hickory Shagbark hickory


                White pine Eastern hemlock


                There are a few other species in the area, but these are the 
ones I can think of off the top of my head. I haven't yet identified Pin oak, 
although I'm fairly certain it grows in the area. Neither have I identified 
tulip poplar, although it can be found farther up Broad Brook. I believe Swamp 
white oak grows somewhere in the conservation area.


                Our assumption is that people will be more drawn to the trees 
if we give them really interesting tidbits about each species. 


                Bob

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