In this context, cove is a protected area of forest, often associated with a small watershed, relatively rich soils. It is a very common part of forestry and forest ecology lexicon. In the central Appalachians we often use the term "mesic cove forest" to describe a rich pocket of forest, in a north facing watershed with species like sugar maple, basswood, some tall yellow-poplar, red oak, if you are lucky a cucumber magnolia- forest herbs like black cohosh, maybe some Erythronium in the spring.
That is the only use of the term I know. I had no idea it can be used to describe water. ryan On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Barry Caselli <[email protected]>wrote: > I keep seeing this word "cove" over and over and over again in most of > the posts in this group. To me, cove is another word for harbor or lagoon, > something that's part of a body of water, on the shoreline. Outside of this > group I've never seen the word used the way you guys use it. > Sorry for my off-topic response, but the more I thought about it, the more > I wanted to say something. > Now, on to some forest talk. You guys mention Ash trees an awful lot, and > that's something I'm completely unfamiliar with. I have no idea of what the > heck an ash tree is. Obviously I can look it up. That's not the point. It's > just that I'm completely unfamilar with such trees. To me, a normal forest > contains Pitch Pine (or less often, Shortleaf Pine), various species of oak, > sassafras, and sometimes eastern red cedar and black cherry. And in > wetlands, Atlantic White Cedar, Swamp (Red) Maple and Sour (Black) Gum. > These are the forests that I know (and love). > But of course I enjoy reading about all the other forests- in > Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, etc. It's a lot of fun. This Neil Pederson Pine > looks beautiful, and tall. > Thanks, > Barry > > --- On *Thu, 11/19/09, Andrew Joslin <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Andrew Joslin <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Meet the Neil Pederson Pine > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 8:23 AM > > > It's so interesting that the tallest Dunbar Brook pines are up on the > slopes and not in the bottom along the creek. I would've thought it > would be the other way around. Perhaps there is a sweet spot between > being too high on the slope and suffering wind damage but still being > high enough to get more sunlight as opposed to the pines in shadow down > in the bottom by the brook. Thoreau and Grandfather pines might be > demonstrating that principle, both on the slope, the Grandfather higher > up, the upper crown is more sparse (limb break out) and not as tall as > Thoreau despite appearing to have equivalent age or maybe even being an > older tree than Thoreau. > > Something else to consider is that we're only looking at a 100+ year > cycle, it may be that the pines in the bottom of the cove are turtles in > the race, if they keep going for another 100 years undisturbed maybe > some become the mythical plus 200 ft. trees, while the Thoreaus and the > Grandfather pines max out due to greater exposure to extreme wind events > over time up on the slope > -Andrew > > [email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>wrote: > > > ENTS, > > > > Yesterday Monica and I went to Monroe State Forest on a specific > > mission. On a couple of previous trips, about 15 minutes up the trail > > from the trailhead, I had observed a white pine high on the south > > facing slopes across Dunbar Brook. Most of the year, the pine cannot > > be seen. The forest in the foreground is dense, the brook below the > > trail is mesmerizing, and one must watch one's footing. Consequently, > > the pine is obscured from sight most of the year. When we were in > > Monroe State Forest on Monday, I happened to look across the brook at > > just the right spot and realized that I needed to see this pine up > > close and personal. Around 9:00AM yesterday, I sheepishly approached > > Monica about tracking down the pine as the day's mission. Although she > > needed to practice for upcoming concerts, being the perfect wife, she > > relented and off we went. > > > > To cut to the chase, the pine is on the south facing ridges of Dunbar > > Brook. Sheep pasturing was an economic mainstay of that location in > > the more distant past, and more recently, the area experienced > > logging. The ridge is recovering from those past activities and to an > > extent and shows promise, but compared to the north-facing slopes is > > not inspiring. On the slopes, the white ashes reach to between 100 > > and 110 feet. The sugar maples reach to between 90 and 100. White > > birches reach to 85 feet at most. The only tall trees are close to > > Dunbar Brook. The hardwoods on the slopes are nothing to get excited > > about. But then there are the pines. They too are on the short side. > > Almost all are between 115 and 125 feet. Only two brush 130 feet. Then > > there is the mystery pine. > > > > Upon reaching the tree, it revealed itself to be modest in size. Its > > girth is 9.9 feet, exactly matching another pine farther down the > > slopes. IBut several other pines are larger, including one that is > > 11.7 feet in girth. It did look pretty tall. I finally settled on > > 144.1 feet. That is significant. It becomes the 5th tallest tree in > > the Dunbar watershed and the northern most 140 in Massachusetts. Its > > trunk volume is approximately 400 cubic feet. I thought to myself, > > "this fine tree deserves a name." My Kentucky friend Dr. Neil Pederson > > came to mind and so it was. It became the Pederson Pine. > > > > The first two of the attached images show Neil's pine. The first shot > > is up close with Monica in the image for scale. The second is through > > the peep hole on the other side of Dunbar Brook. Neil's pine is the > > one with dark green foliage. The 3rd image is of a handsome pine lower > > on the ridge. - a 129.5-footer. > > > > The confirmation of the Pederson Pine rekindled my memory of the > > mission that Jack Sobon and I undertook years ago to locate and > > measure all 140-foot white pines in Massachusetts. That mission > continues. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > > Send email to > > [email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > > To unsubscribe send email to > > [email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to > [email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to > [email protected]<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > -- Ryan McEwan The University of Dayton http://academic.udayton.edu/RyanMcEwan -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
