Bob:

I just had a long visit with Dan Kincaid about the WV big tree program and he 
said that they have put together some groups of DOF foresters that will be 
revisiting and remeasuring all of exisitng the record trees in WV over the next 
three years....there are almost 250 different rees.  I think Dan was impressed 
with the presentation that Turner made on the measurement protocol and he also 
indicated that they are really looking forward to measuring several trees that 
have been submitted as possible records but they were never measured.  With any 
luck there might be a field training session in the next year or so in WV that 
would feature an ENTS measuring demonstration.

Russ





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Subject: Re: [ENTS] Population of rangefinders in West Virginia is increasing.


Russ,


Indeed. You have always maintained that WV was a tree-growing machine, and 
while we didn't doubt your trustworthy eye, it would be great to get some 
confirmations. Maybe WV will be the first to actually confirm  200-footer. 
Also, maybe WV foresters will shame their New England brethren to join the 21st 
century and get the Nikon Forestry 550.


Bob

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Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:52:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Population of rangefinders in West Virginia is increasing.


Turner:
 
That is excellent news.  Dan Kincaid has been a breath of fresh air at the 
Division of Forestry and seems to be juggling all the balls that his job 
entails very well.  I will try to find out who some of the foresters are that 
have been given access to the rangefinders and suggest that they give the ENTS 
tree measuring methods a try.  I think that there are several serious height 
record contenders here and getting realistic height measurements from different 
parts of the state could be extremely interesting. 
 
I know that the Widen poplar is the tallest yellow poplar documented in WV but 
after having visited the tree and seen its appearance relative to other, much 
younger trees I have encountered while working in various parts of the state I 
am pretty certain that somewhere in West Virginia there lurks a 120 year old 
yellow poplar tree approaching 200 feet in height.   
 
I don't know what such trees could look like at 200 years!
 
What would be your vote for the location of the tallest yellow poplar?  
 
Russ 
 

In a message dated 11/22/2009 8:59:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:
ENTS
      Last summer I had a chance to meet with Dan Kincaid, the new Big
Tree Coordinator for West Virginia to express my concern on the
moribund status of the Big Tree register in West Virginia. After a
couple of additional meetings and one with the WV State Forester I can
announce that the WV Division of Forestry has appointed 2 Big Tree
measurers in each their regions(3). They also have eight new Nikon 550
rangefinders and a desire to bring the register up to date in next two
years with good height measurements.
    I would like to relay how ENTS made this possible. First, ED Frank
maintains a pretty good web site with lots of good information and
links that I still have not fully reviewed. Second, occasionally some
ENTS venture forth to measure a big tree or two and post their results
on the web site. On such foray was made in March of 2006 by Carl
Harting, Anthony Kelly, Russ Richardson and Mike Plevich to check out
the 195’ Widen (Clay County) Yellow-poplar. It turned out to be a
measly 172’, but still the tallest verified north of the Smokies
However I had access to the past files on this poplar and prior
measurements varied by more then 60’ with some higher then 195’. They
were quite receptive when I pointed out that there was a method that
is more accurate and consistent and easily taught.
    The rangefinders were ordered and arrived last week.  I spent last
Thursday with six foresters to get them started using the sine method
to measure tree height.  I expect we will have better tree height
information coming out of West Virginia. I also encouraged them to use
the great ENTS website and participate in discussions and share
measurements. A promise to Chief ENT Will Blozan -  The 196’ Yellow
Buckeye and 185’ Yellow-poplar will be found and measured.
Turner Sharp

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