All, I saw this tree in winter, and there are no twigs within 60' of the ground. If leaves are available, I agree the trees are fairly easy to separate. In addition to the features already mentioned, black maple leaves often have hairs along the main veins, which is rare but can occur in sugar maple, and they have persistent stipules. Droopiness, thickness, and hairiness are all difficult to judge from fallen, withered leaves; hence, I was hoping someone could make a definitive ID from the bark.
I'm not certain, but I believe the soils where the tree grows are deep loam over dolomite. In central NY, black maple often occurs on thin limestone soils, but can also occur in deeper soils. Jess On 12/8/09, Bob <[email protected]> wrote: > Jess, > > Thanks. Was the leaf slightly simpler than that normally expected > of a sugar maple? > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Jess Riddle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bob, > > > > I'm still learning to recognize the differences between black maple > > and sugar maple myself. Some of the maples at Green Lakes jumped out > > at me as having very strange bark for sugar maple and were similar to > > some of the few black maples I have seen. Don Leopold confirmed that > > black maple does grow at Green Lakes. The attached photos are of an > > ~8' x 110'+ maple at Green Lakes that I think is a black maple. > > > > Jess > > > > > > > > Jess, > > > > > > That's exciting. If you get back there, please, please take some > > pictures of the black maples and sugar maaples and post them so we can > > see the differences. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Bob > > > > -- > > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > > Send email to [email protected] > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] > > <IMG_5932_2_1.JPG> > > <IMG_5931_1_1.JPG> > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] > -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
