I have not been to the Thomas Edison Estate. In fact I haven't been to that 
area of New Jersey, the northeastern part of the state, since the 70s.
I just had an unrelated thought. I think I'll drive over to Elwood and measure 
that oak that's in front of the firehouse. Once I buy my coffee I'll need to 
warm up my truck anyway. I'll report back once I've measured it.
Barry
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Subject: Re: [ENTS] Huge buttonwoods found today
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:42 AM



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Barry,


Another common name for an American sycamore is button ball tree. It is an 
unsophisticated sounding name. I've never liked it. 


Really fine shots of those sycamores. If we ever have an ENTS big tree photo 
contest, I would nominate your last image as one of the 10 best. It is a real 
keeper. Regardless of whether we have a formal contest, I'm holding on to your 
last shot.



On Monica's and my return trip from Virginia, we traveled I287 through New 
Jersey. I saw several areas with very mature, stately oaks along the 
Interstate. There is no question that New Jersey once had lots of exceptional 
trees, and on the estates, there are still plenty to see. Back in October, I 
had to testify at West Orange on behalf of a property that was going to be 
savaged by Seton Hall Prep School. That institution has all the ecological 
sensitivity of an enraged charging rhinoceros. But one the trip, I was taken to 
the Thomas Edison estate. There are some great tulips and oaks on the estate. 
Have you see it.


Larry,


I have seen old sycamores that look like Barry's. The trees may not have a 
reliable source of underground water needed for a sycamore to reach the huge 
proportions that they're capable of.


Bob



----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Caselli" <[email protected]>
To: "ENTS" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 12:47:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [ENTS] Huge buttonwoods found today






ENTS,
Today I was off from the cranberry farm yet again. Since December 24 or so I've 
been dealing with having a bad cold (which is almost better now), and having 
water in the basement, which is where I live, plus not working for various 
reasons. But I'm taking advantage, and doing some exploration, walking and 
photography.
Today I started at Weymouth and did an update video to the extreme high water 
video I did there last Sunday, the 27th. I then drove all the way up to Mt. 
Holly, which is an estimated 15 miles further north and west from the cranberry 
farm. I used a lot of gas getting there.
My main reason for going to Mt. Holly was to photograph a whole mess of 
churches I had missed last time I was there, because they were on a street that 
I had not walked on.
So anyway, I ended up walking past the Friends meeting house again, and noticed 
that the big buttonwoods I had seen last time were in full sun this time. So I 
got good pictures of them. This was when I realized how huge they were! So it 
ocurred to me, why not measure them! I hadn't measured a tree in a while. So I 
found my tape and measured them. The larger one, which is the one with the 
unusual shape, has a CBH of 16'5", and the smaller one 13'3". The larger one is 
the largest buttonwood I've ever measured, though not the largest I've ever 
seen.
Friends (Quaker) cemeteries are great places to find large trees such as 
buttonwoods and white oaks. To refresh your memory, a buttonwood tree is an 
eastern sycamore, which I'm sure you can tell by seeing the pictures.
This Friends meeting house was built in 1775 and the burial ground may be older 
than that. So the trees likely date from that era, at least I would think so.
Barry
 
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