Are there any tree-height measuring devices that do the math for you?  I
never took trig.
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    Carolyn Summers
    63 Ferndale Drive
    Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
    914-478-5712



> From: Beth <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:57:09 -0800 (PST)
> To: ENTSTrees <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
> 
> A Small Comparison between Suunto and iPhone Clinometers
> 
>      Since some of us now have iPhones and have downloaded the
> Clinometer application I thought that someone needs to compare the
> iPhone to the Suunto clinometer.  Today I took 14 measurements each
> while sitting on my couch to a ceiling heating/AC vent.  I then
> measured my eye height, the ceiling height, and the distance from my
> eyes to the tape measure hanging from the vent as a plumb bob.  These
> measurements were: ceiling height = 96², height of the eyes = 38², and
> distance to the vent plum bob = 219².  I used the measurements to
> calculate the angle I was trying to measure with the Suunto and
> iPhone.  Before taking my measurements I calibrated my iPhone
> clinometer according to the instructions.  I also had the following
> settings:  Fast approximation-on, Beep on lock-on, wait for lock
> accuracy of + 0.1o- all the way to the left (+ 0.1o), disable auto-
> lock-off, and 3D glass effect-on.
> 
> The first thing that I do in order to calculate the angle A was to
> calculate the distance from my eye to the ceiling; 96²-38²= 58².
> 
> Since Tan A = a/b, we can rearrange the equation to find A by dividing
> both sides by Tan.  Since 1/Tan =Arc Tan the equation is A = (a/b) Arc
> Tan.  Filling in this equation with the data we get A = (58/219) Arc
> Tan or A = 14.8336707057.  Taking signifiginte numbers in mind I am
> going to say the angle is 14.8o.  (Note:  I calculated this after
> gathering the data as not to influence the clinometer data)
> 
> Now for the clinometer data:
> Suunto  iPhone   Suunto  iPhone
> 15.5 15.2   14.5  15.4
> 15.0  14.9   15.0  15.2
> 15.0  15.1   14.5  15.2
> 15.0  14.1   14.5  15.1
> 15.0  15.0   14.5  15.7
> 15.0  15.2   15.0  15.5
> 14.5  15.1   14.5  15.2
> The means were 14.8 and 15.1 for the Suunto and iPhone respectively
> with standard deviation of 0.31 and 0.35.
> 
> The one thing I noticed in my raw data is with the Suunto my highest
> and lowest angles were 15.5 and 14.5 whereas with the iPhone they were
> 15.7 and 14.1.  I can think of at least two reasons why. 1) I have
> more experience with the Suunto than I have with the iPhone and 2) the
> Suunto has a line to help repeatly ³hit² the same spot whereas the
> iPhone you are just looking down one side of the phone.
> 
> I also noticed after calculating the angle (14.8) the Suunto average
> was closer than the iPhone¹s (14.8 vs. 15.1).  Now is 0.3o difference
> significant?  Bob has more experience with the Suunto than I do and he
> has stated in the past that can read it to the nearest 1Ž4 o.  I myself
> can only read it to the nearest 1Ž2o.  Given this I believe that a
> difference of 0.3o is.
> 
> How can the iPhone be improved?  If one would add a sighting device on
> to the iPhone this could help ³hit² the same spot repeatly. Obviously
> this can not be same one that is used in the Suunto¹s, looking through
> it with an optical illusion.  Maybe a tiny gun sighting built into the
> volume and/or ringer buttons on the left side.  I think someone
> thought of this earlier.  With the sight and practice I believe one
> could the angle down to the nearest tenth of a degree.  With the
> Suunto one can only really estimate anything less than 1 degree.
> Beth
> 
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