Will,

The Wachachas are a prominent Graham County Cherokee Family.  Maybe
"Wachacha Grove" would be better?  And perhaps I should wait a while
before naming a grove after a family I don't personally know!

Josh



On Jan 12, 8:23 am, "Will Blozan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> I anxiously awit your report. What is the source of the "Wachacha Flats"?
> Better, I suppose, than the name I came up with for the nearby cove...
>
> Will F. Blozan
> President, Eastern Native Tree Society
> President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>
> "No sympathy for apathy"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>
> Behalf Of Josh Kelly
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:52 PM
> To: ENTSTrees
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest LiDAR ground-truthing
> expedition 1-2010
>
> Will, Gaines,
>
> The "Type Map: Gennett Lumber Company Tract No. 309f.g. Graham Co.
> North Carolina" by John Wasilk (sound familiar) and Party from June,
> July 1935 clearly shows an abandoned field adjacent to second growth
> coves we visited, but depicts the coves, like the 99% of the rest of
> the 13,055 acre tract, as "virgin".  The more I think about it, the
> more I think those coves were logged sometime from August 1935-late
> 1937, when the USFS acquired the tract.  The wagon road that led to
> the abandoned field gave better access to that exceptional spot than
> was available to Poplar Cove, so now we are left with exceptional 2nd
> growth, rather than exceptional old-growth.  I'd wager many of the
> poplars in that stand regenerated in the late 1930's while a few are a
> decade or two older. For all of you botanically inclined ENTS, I have
> started to key in on a couple of tall tree and high-productivity-site-
> indicating herbs.  They are Goldie's Fern (Dryopteris goldiana) and
> walking fern (Asplenium rhizophyllum), both basophiles or
> calceophiles.  A number of the tall tree spots in the Smokies have one
> or both of these species as well as "Wachacha Flats" -the name I
> propose for the exceptional 2nd growth area at Kilmer.
>
> For all of you of you folks interesed in LiDAR and tall trees, I am
> compiling an article from information contributed by Paul Jost, Jenn
> Hushaw (Nichols School masters student at Duke), Hugh Irwin (ENTS,
> SAFC), Will Blozan, Jess Riddle, and myself.  Included in the article
> will be a narrative about our experiences utilizing LiDAR data and
> some notes on its accuracy and precision in the mountains of North
> Carolina. It will also include some fancy smancy maps!
>
> Josh
>
> On Jan 11, 7:22 pm, "Will Blozan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Gaines,
>
> > I have a 170 footer in Big Creek; 69 years at BH. The Kilmer trees may
> only
> > be 75 years old.
>
> > Will F. Blozan
> > President, Eastern Native Tree Society
> > President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>
> > "No sympathy for apathy"
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>
> > Behalf Of Gaines McMartin
> > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:20 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest LiDAR ground-truthing
> > expedition 1-2010
>
> > Will:
>
> >    Thanks for the very exciting account of your survey in Joyce
> > Kilmer.  Maybe you know, but there have been reports of site indexes
> > of up to 140 feet for tuliptree.  Second growth can really be
> > something if given just a little time.  I don't have any data for
> > tuliptree growth rates past 50 years. It may be out there.
>
> >    --Gaines

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