Jess,

Awesome. When I generally think of Pisgah National Forest I usually do
not think of trees 150 feet tall or over. The forest was extensively
logged in places 90 years ago and back. But then, I must remember,
that record Tuliptree you found on Bradley Fork, GSMNP is only in the
100 year range. PNF is close and maybe I should do more searches
there.

One place I have planned is a grove of White Pine in the Pink Beds.

I have hiked both John Rock and Looking Glass. Impressive views await
those who hikes to their summits. This was before I joined ENTS and
before I started closely examining forests.

James P.

On Jan 15, 10:33 am, Jess Riddle <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ents,
>
> On Saturday, at the suggestion of Josh Kelly and Will Blozan, we
> followed the Davidson River west from Brevard, NC to explore Horse
> Cove and East Horse Cove. Ascending  to just under 6000’ elevation,
> the surrounding watershed drains the steep southeastern flank of the
> Balsam Mountains, and features several granitic domes, the best known
> of which is Looking Glass Rock (http://tinyurl.com/yct2wqw).  John
> Rock, one of the smaller granitic domes, shelters Horse Cove from the
> west, and the steep upper slopes of Chestnut Knob provide shade from
> the south/southeast.  While Horse Cove is a broad cove draining to the
> north with several small, steep, sub-coves coming off Chestnut Knob,
> the adjacent East Horse Cove is a northeast flowing ravine.  East
> Horse Cove generally appears more acidic with patchy rhododendron
> along the stream, although near the top of the stream spicebush
> dominates the understory.  Tuliptrees line the stream, but on the east
> facing slopes they quickly give way to a mix of hickories and oaks.
> Tuliptree also forms nearly pure stands where side coves enter into
> Horse Cove, and on those sites spicebush again dominates the
> understory.  Gentler sections of Horse Cove support a more diverse
> overstory that, in addition to tuliptree, includes a mix of oaks,
> pignut hickory, and beech.  Throughout the cove silverbell occurs as
> an understory species, and a few sugar maples, locally uncommon, grow
> in the midstory.  The overstory is generally mature, probably a little
> less than 100 years old, except for a section of the middle of the
> cove that was clear cut perhaps a decade ago.
>
> Species                        Cbh     Height
> Ash, White                   7’8”     136.6’
> Beech                          6’2.5” 130.6’
> Basswood, White          5’10”  142.3’
> Hickory, Mockernut       7’11”   132.9’
> Hickory, Mockernut       7’4”     133.1’
> Hickory, Pignut             NA       143.4’
> Hickory, Pignut             6’6”     152.1’
> Magnolia, Cucumber     NA       128.7’
> Oak, Black                   9’2”    125.5’
> Oak, Chestnut              5’0”    128.0’
> Oak, Northern Red        9’0”    129.2’
> Oak, Southern Red       7’10”   119.7’
> Pine, White                  9’7”    149.9’
> Tuliptree                       6’4.5” 150.4’
> Tuliptree                       NA      150.9’
> Tuliptree                       6’10”  157.5’
> Tuliptree                       NA      159.5’
>
> Rucker Index                           139.0’
>
> The mockernut hickories may be state height records, and the great
> height and abundance of the hickories relative to other species
> resembles tall tree sites along the Blue Ridge Escarpment in SC,
> including Wadakoe Mountain and Tamassee Knob.  However, basswood does
> not reach 140 along the escarpment, and all of the tall ash on the
> escarpment are var. biltmoreana not var. americana as in Horse Cove.
> The southern red oak is also exceptional for the mountains, and not
> surprisingly, grows on a slope outside the coves and just above the
> Davidson River.  We did not attempt to find the tallest tuliptree and
> only explored about half of the cove, so more searching will almost
> certainly raise the Rucker Index above 140’.
>
> Jess and Mike
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