>Dear Martin,

Hello Jonathan Kwok

>Just wanted to say a big thank you for your report and mini review of the
>Eos 30. You've given a very frank, easily understandable and honest account
>of the camera and I appreciate your efforts- as I'm sure many others on the
>Eos list appreciates your efforts.
>
>I'm an Eos 1V and Eos 3 user, but am considering the Eos 30 for its light
>weight and quiet shutter. May I ask if there's much difference in noise
>level between the Eos 30 and your Eos 50?

As I wrote in the first paragraph, I really think there is MUCH differnce
in the noise level between my new EOS30 and my old EOS50. However, this
might be more of a "psychological thing", as I think the perception of a
lower noice level could be due to the much different sound (this was what I
tried to imply also... with the tuned Japanese engine;-) Unfortunately, I
do not have an audiometer and thus can only compare subjectively. I can't
emagine how I would compare the 30 to a 1v or the 3! Point: the 30 seems
much more silent than the 50.

>The Eos 30's AF sensitivity is rated as EV1 versus the Eos 50's EV 0, which
>means that theoretically at least, the Eos 50 should have better low-light
>AF. If you could run another side-by-side comparison, I'd really be
>interested to know if you can detect any difference in both cameras' ability
>to lock focus on subjects in low light, without the use of AF illuminators.

I will certainly make a test of this. Perhaps the immediate interpretation
of the ability of the EOS30 to focus in lower light could be due to the
focus assistant beam on the EOS50 giving aid at a higher EV than actually
needed - just in case? If this is true, I would see the assistant beam
turned on the 50, when the 30 still focuses easily. To night (when I come
home from work), I will compare the 30 and 50 in a true way, that is, no
assistant light illumination.

>Again, thank you very much for your time and effort taken to share your
>experiences and knowledge. I've done reviews before and I know that writing
>one requires systematic observation and much effort. By the way, as far as
>I'm concerned, don't be worried about the length of your review - be
>detailed - I'll enjoy reading every word as long as you ensure that the
>review is fair and objective!

Thank you very much. I appreciate that you appreciate:-) But, this type of
informal mini review is so much easier to do (and is easily written), than
the more thorough and science-like reviews you do!

Kindly,
Martin Chr. Hansen, Denmark

>Enjoy your new camera and happy shooting!
>
>
>Cheers,
>Jonathan Kwok
>Malaysia.
>
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>
>
>Two days ago I got my EOS30/Elan7e with BP-300, and if you'll excuse
>misspelling and grammar faults, I'll tell a bit of my experiences.
>
>First of all, rumors regarding the noise/silence holds true (at least when
>you upgrade from an EOS50e/ElanIIe). The 30 sounds like a fast, but
>whispering, top tuned Japanese engine. The 50e mirror slap sounds very, eh,
>solid and firm in comparison - but very, very loud and very slow - what
>comes to my mind in comparison is: old fashioned.
>
>Second is the size: I'm so glad I got the BP-300, otherwise I fear that the
>EOS30 would have felt too small in my hands. I like very much the smaller
>and much more modern look of it, but when I hold it, it is very obvious
>that the grip (on the camera, not the BP-300) has become smaller too - eh,
>difficult to explain; the width and height is smaller (as you know from the
>data), but the depth is smaller too - my right hand fingers feels slightly
>too long for the grip, and the PB-300 of cause does not help this.
>
>Third (to address earlier posts) the illuminated focus points: During the
>first hours of playing with the EOS30, I didn't notice any difference in
>focus point illumination, but then I remembered something about the upper
>point being more faint, and actually, however very little, this is also the
>case on my EOS30! The difference is only noticeable if I really want to
>notice and therefore not a concern for me!
>
>Fourth (one of my concerns before ordering): the focus assistant light. As
>you know, this is done by the internal flash instead of by an red and
>discrete lamp like on the 50e/ElanIIe. The flash bursts are extremely
>effective, and thereby extremely annoying too! In fact, I (and my girl
>friend) finds it so annoying that it should never be used if there are
>others beside your self in the same room - and especially not if taking
>pictures of people. Fortunately, a custom function let you turn the thing
>off - either completely (also on external flashes) or only the annoying
>flash bursts but not the assistant light emitted from external flashes. The
>latter is what I use, and I'm very happy about this solution (when it's too
>dark, I anyway use my 550EX). The focus capabilities in dim light is much
>better than the 50e. Unfortunately, I can't remember right now (I'm at
>work), but I could focus easily in conditions giving an exposure of 1
>second and f/5.6 - as far as I remember. If you want me to, I can compare
>my two cameras in this respect� Point is, the focusing is very fast and
>efficient even in low light, so I don't need the focus assistant!
>
>Fifth (and also one of my previous concerns): the shift between eye
>controlled and manually controlled focus points. To do this, you now need
>to turn a dial on top of the camera (in contrast to the 50e/ElanIIe).
>However, this dial is fitted with a small, ehh, sort of lever, which let
>you flick it with your index finger rather than turn it conventionally (by
>taking a grip with several fingers). Thus, without removing the camera from
>your eye, you can very fast turn eye controlled focusing either on or off.
>And while I'm talking about the eye control. It works very fast, much
>faster than on the 50e, and it is very effective. It worked perfectly for
>me on the 50e with only one calibration step, but on the EOS30, I needed to
>recalibrate three times before it worked flawlessly - both horizontal and
>vertical.
>
>One last thing: the midroll change. On the 50e/ElanIIe, after rewinding the
>film (leave leader out) the film leader would end at a position in the
>middle of the compartment - and thereby it (at least in my 50e) always
>touches the shutter blades - not very nice! but unfortunately inevitable.
>On the 30/Elan7e, the film leader ends at the rightmost position, that is
>at the uptake spool. No need for further worries for the shutter blades.
>Nice!
>
>Of cause I have much more, but before this mail gets too long (and scare
>some away) I will say that until now, I do not regret upgrading from the
>50e. I yet have to see how my pictures turn out (I have shot some tests,
>using the same film (midroll change), the same lens (a 85mm f/1.8) and a
>tripod). If any problems, I'll let you know.
>
>Kindly,
>Martin Chr. Hansen, Denmark
>
>
>
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