At 10:41 AM -0700 5/15/01, Icoz, Evrim wrote:
>I am seriously considering getting filters (77mm) for my Tokina lenses
>(19-35 and 28-80mm's). I am loking into a circular polarizer and also some
>red, green and yellow filters for B&W. It seems to me that getting a system
>like Cokin will save me money when I buy more than one filter.

I use the Cokin P system with my Canon EOS-3 system with EF50mm f1.4 
(filter diameter 58mm), 75-300 mm IS (filter 58mm), and older Sigma 
wideangle 24-70mm (filter 55mm). I also have a RB 67 with Mamiya Secor 90mm 
(filter 77mm).

I use the P-system for the shots where I want a graduated neutral density 
filter (GND) as well as for some B&W shots. I'm fairly happy with the P 
system, here are my thoughts:

Pros:
   * Economical in that you only ever have to buy one set of filters
   * The only way to adjust graduated neutral density filters for off-center 
horizons
   * The only way to stack filters (not recommended)

Cons:
  * Bulky, you don't really leave the P-system on, but only put it on for 
special effects
  * You have to take off your Canon hood, the P-system hood is inadequate for
     blocking flare, so you need to use a tripod and a handheld gobo if you're
     worried about that
  * The cheap resin filters are cheap for a reason. They're not perfectly 
optically
     clear and the cheap Cokin GND and ND filters aren't perfectly grey. Buy 
glass
     P-filters if you have the money
  * They will vignette, even at 24mm. You can dremel or cut off the first two
     holders on the P-mount (it's cheap, buy a second one), but I imagine it'll
     still vignette at 19mm.


>  Also, are they good quality that I can use with a L glass ?

Only if you buy quality glass filters from someplace like Singh-Ray. The 
standard Cokin resin filters will slightly reduce clarity.  If you're rich 
enough to buy an L lens, then get glass filters. I'm cheap so I suffer with 
resin and for all purposes, at 25% of the price they do 90% of the job.

>Does it make sense to buy the polarizer seperately, btw?

The polarizer is expensive. You could buy a large diameter polarizer and 
just use step-up rings for your smaller lenses. It might be more economical 
in the long run.


>Another thing that worries me is vignetting, 19-35 especially. What do you
>think? Do these system vignette a lot?

See above.

Karen
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