Hi All,

Re the recent discussion about 15-30's 17-40's etc I'd like to make the following 
personal observations....

I have one of the 17-40 f4L lenses (for travel and hiking) and also a 16-35 f2.8L (for 
almost everything else...).  I use them on a 10D (as, similarly to what others have 
described, I've barely touched a film body since going to a D60, now replaced by a 
10D).   So I can't speak about edge sharpness for 35mm use, but the 17-40 certainly 
seems to match the 16-35 in image (and build) quality - allowing for the 1.6 crop 
factor of the 10D.    I can see no cause for complaint with it - for 35mm (or 1Ds) use 
YMMV.

Previous to the 17-40 I had a 20-35 usm (the non-L version) for travel use and it was 
also very good. What made me switch was the extra 3mm & 5mm at either end compared to 
the 20-35, which *I* found significant on the 10D.  Ok, it's physically larger (quite 
similar to the 16-35 in fact), has the same excellent build characteristics as the 2.8 
lens but is quite a bit lighter than the 16-35, although heavier than the 20-35.  All 
3 use the same 77mm filter size.

I was barely using the 20-35 as I preferred the 16-35's wide end, but I didn't like 
the extra weight of carrying it (along with other lenses) when travelling etc, so the 
17-40 seemed like a good thing.   I also have two 70-200s as well (for exactly the 
same reasons) - an f4L and an f2.8L IS.   AND I've seen the same statements made about 
the 70-200 f4L too (i.e. nowhere near the quality of the 2.8 versions).  

I beg to differ in both cases....

A few years ago I also had a Sigma EX 17-35 f2.8-4 - very light also and pretty darned 
good optically too, but it annoyed the hell out of me that the whole focusing ring 
turned in AF mode, when none of my Canon lenses did that. It almost made me drop the 
camera & lens more than once (as I cradle the lens in my left hand) and eventually 
that lead me to sell it.  Shame, as it was otherwise a good lens, priced well and had 
fair build quality too.

I tried a Sigma 20 f1.8 and found it too soft, even for digital framing.  Haven't 
tried the 15-30, so no opinions there, but I'd be interested to know if it has the 
same rotating focusing ring....  I bought a used Tokina 17mm f3.5 AT-X (the earlier 
version, not the Pro version).  I've always liked the 17mm Tokinas, having owned a 
couple from FD days in the early 80s (as well as a Nikon mount one) and this one was 
no exception.  Optically good (even at max aperture it was pretty good) with build 
quality matching any L series lens.  I kept it until the purchase of the 16-35 and 
have no regrets about switching....  

Cheers
Gary



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