Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:59:09 +0900
From: Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: EOS 10d metering and shutter rants

Michael Quack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to:


It might be interesting to see if the camera meter reading in Manual mode using eval metering varies much in this type of scene,

It will just like before. Evaluative is the most silly thing to use (besides AWB), because you can't predict what the camera is going to fuck up next.

I thought you really had something to say until you said this. Why would I care about white balance when I always shoot RAW?

Hm, you seem to have too much time on your hands.


Last weekend I shot a fashion show. Last seasons
shooting: http://www.photoquack.de/fashion/2.htm
White background, clothes in different colors.
AWB would have given me a different color all the
time. Yes, I could have corrected this on every
single shot. But why waste my precious time?

The night after the shot I extracted the embedded
Jpegs from the RAW files - no correction necessary,
all on the spot. Thoses extracts were used for a
preliminary lookbook, the most important thing in
ordering during a fashion trade fair.

Printed on a Minolta QMS 2350 laser printer and
delivered to the showroom at 8 in the morning.
Converting from RAW would have cost too much time.
Lookbooks are done in batch action after pre-defined
actions, I just click run and go to sleep while you are
fumbling with the color. The full RAW files are
afterwards used in offset printing for a "real"
printed version distributed to fashion editors and
big buyers.

Much as I use (M)aster mode to get the exposure
right all the time, I use custom WB to get the
color right all the time.

Look at this to see how badly off AWB can be (and
often is): http://www.photoquack.de/temp/wb.jpg

Now you might not experience colors that dramatically
off. But they will be off, some more, some less.
You can either decide to correct them (but then,
off what reference?), or leave them as is.

Sometimes you might not even notice there is a
problem because you are not trained enough to
recognize the color problem or your system is
simply not capable of displaying the color in a
way that allows proper judgement.

Others might well notice, then. Some of those
"others" might be prospective clients, judging
your work against another photographer who
knows what he is doing. The differences might
not be striking and jump at you, but they are
there.

Thanks for the comments, condescending though they were.

I pointed out things you should invest some learning time in. I didn't judge you for that, at some point I started from scratch as well.

But I do judge people for calling serious
advice condescending.

On the other hand I like the existence of
competitors who don't master color management
or their camera. They make me look better in
comparison. And yes, this *is* condescending.

--
Michael Quack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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