On 20 Sep 2004 at 18:05, Mat Hayashibara wrote:

> At 02:44 AM 9/21/2004 +0200, you wrote:
> >Anyone daring the bet that we will *never* see a combined digi+analog
> >camera?
> 
> I thought that is what Leica is doing with the "digital back" for the R8/R9?
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp
> 
> >By using another pellicle mirror system perhaps....shooting digi
> >normally, shooting analog alternatively or simultaneously for that
> >once in a lifetime shot....
> 
> You mean digital and film AT THE SAME TIME.... now that is an intriguing 
> possibility...

I have never been known to settle for the common and obvious....:))
(he said, one day after hauling home yet another Leitz Large Lecture 
Hall Epidiaskop IIIs....this time the horse-trailer wasn't even tall 
enough, at 215cm, unlike the previous IIIs, being 211 tall....this 
one was 228cm, had to disassemble the top part (optical path of the 
4x5" slide-projector)....how could I know these monsters grow with 
the focal length used (1300mm/f4.8 vs 1000mm/f3.5)....:)) 

> Actually what I'd like to see is a digital "preview screen", perhaps with 
> its own optics built-in... you tell the device what kind of film you are 
> shooting with, and what exposure you want to use, and you see the result on an
> large LCD without shooting a frame. The device would suggest exposures depending
> on how you want shadow/highlights to be exposed, and you would instantly see the
> results on the screen. That would be better than a histogram, in that a level of
> abstraction in understanding the result is removed. That would be better than an
> exposure meter.

Btw, not sure if it was wishfull thinking, but I read a German 
newsgroup comment about a auxiliary lightmeter with exposure 
histogram....not that difficult with the viewfinder-types of those, 
actually....could even blend that info into the same viewfinder.
 
> When I got my first digicam, a Sony Mavica MVC-FD91, that's kinda how I 
> used the large LCD it had, once I had switched on the spot metering mode, 
> and moving the spot around the scene I was going to photograph. I taught me a
> lot about metering in VERY intuitive way... at that point, I really did discover
> that cameras and the eye don't see the same way, especially with regards to
> dynamic range. If you moved the spot to a highlight, the screen would go dark,
> and if you moved the spot to a shadow, highlights would blow out. If this device
> could wirelessly communicate the exposure you'd figured out from the screen to
> the camera, that would be perfect...
> 
> Minolta ALMOST got it right with a custom function that shows you what the EV+/-
> value is for each segment of the matrix meter in the Maxxum 7... it just does
> not relate it back to the viewfinder in a meaningful way.

Didn't the old 9000 with Super Back not have something similar?....a 
graphic representation of various spot-meterings?

--                 
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

      The desire to understand 
is sometimes far less intelligent than
     the inability to understand

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