> >
> >
> >I may be wrong, but it is my understanding, and opinion, that
> all of these
> >lenses that are designed for digicams are marginal at best in full frame
> >applications like film or full frame sensors.
> >
> > Since the typical digital image sensor is in the center of the "frame"
> > little has been done to keep sharpness at the edges as with non digital
> > lenses.
> >
> > Any comments?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilber
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [inbox] Re: EOS Advices needed for lens purchase
>
>
> Bob, the only this that I know is that we shoot with he 16-35 "L" f / 2.8
> and I was told this and the 17-35 were both designed for the 1.6x
> sensors.
> So when we shoot with this on the full frame cameras the edge
> distortion is
> unreal- very very bad- sharp but bad.
> Wilber
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: EOS Advices needed for lens purchase
>
>

Hello new list readers,

Bob, your understanding is incorrect, both of these lenses EF 17-35 2.8L and
EF 16-35 2.8L were designed for use on full frame 35mm format cameras.  I've
owned and used both of these lenses and while not perfect this lens fills a
pretty broad range of uses on my 1.3X and 1X bodies.  When I bought my first
EF 17-35 2.8L there were no practical, usable professional quality digital
bodies available for the Canon EF mount.  When I bought my first EF 16-35
2.8L the first new professional 4MP EOS 1D bodies had been announced at
$7,000 but you couldn't get them at any price unless you were a Sports
Illustrated or ESPN, they were very, VERY scarce and film was the main media
of the 35mm format SLR bodies.  Fast forward 4 years to 2005 when any Tom,
Dick or Jane can buy a fully featured consumer DSLR with 6MP sensor for $800
and now you have an understanding that is simply incorrect.

Wilber, I'm a professional photographer shooting primarily architecture and
professional motorsports and I have been shooting digitally for about 3
years now.  I use the EF 16-35 2.8L and EF 15 2.8 FF Fisheye lenses everyday
on EOS 1DS bodies for architecture and have no problems with distortion at
all.  ALL of the lines in my finished images are ruler straight when using
either lens.  Of course there are several digital corrections involved but
what do I care?  When a shot can sometimes take hours to setup and light and
an other 10-15 minutes to get the camera positioned and the image framed
correctly what's an other 15 minutes in post capture doing distortion,
perspective and vignette correction for an image?  This is what I get paid
to know how to do to produce corrected images.

At normal distances these lenses have some minor distortion that are not
noticeable to the average person without obvious straight lines running all
the way through them as do ALL optical lenses.  For an image where you want
to take advantage of the perspective distortion that ALL very wide angle
lenses have when focusing very close what do you expect, straight lines?
This is simply the nature of ALL very wide angle lenses and most armatures
don't realize this and then say the lens has very bad distortions, this is
NOT a lens fault.


Cheers/Chip



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