Manuel Wolfshant, Thank you for responding. From your answer: > All packages in Fedora (and EPEL) install the binaries and the man pages > in the same way. IF a package provides a runable binary it will be in > your $PATH; if it has manpages, they will be below $MANPATH.
I can only assume that the installations failed even though the messages said "completed". I did not install them as a private user. I executed "yum install alliance" (and the other tools too) as root. After installation, every tool file is owned by root and none of the files are executable. The man files are all gzipped. Attempts to reinstall result in a message that the tool is already installed. I will try your suggestion and use rpm -ql and repoquery -l to see if there's some clue as to how I should proceed but my gut feeling is these commands will leave me still clueless. Any ideas on what I did wrong or what steps were omitted from the installation procedure? Thanks, Bob P. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: epel-devel-list Digest, Vol 43, Issue 32 Send epel-devel-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of epel-devel-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Catalyst in EPEL 6 (Chris Adams) 2. Fedora Electronics Lab through EPEL question (Robert Peruzzi) 3. Re: Fedora Electronics Lab through EPEL question (Manuel Wolfshant) 4. epel beta report: 20100823 changes (EPEL Beta Report) 5. Re: Catalyst in EPEL 6 (Iain Arnell) 6. Re: Catalyst in EPEL 6 (Mark Chappell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:32:47 -0500 From: Chris Adams <[email protected]> To: EPEL development disccusion <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Catalyst in EPEL 6 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Once upon a time, Michael Stahnke <[email protected]> said: > If each shop is doing it themselves, that's a lot of wasted > productivity over the long haul. Ideally, this is done in EPEL which > will handle the default case (which is hopefully good enough for most > shops). After that shops may require adjustments to packages or > produce newer ones in year 3-7 of the RHEL lifecycle. I'd hope that > EPEL can at least be a decent starting point though. I package up several things myself, mainly because I need it "now". I have plans to push some of those packages to Fedora and EPEL (or just EPEL, in the case of local rebuilds of Fedora packages), but I haven't had enough round tuits to get that done. I did separate my local RHEL repo into repos based on the source of the package, like "fedora-add" for things I've rebuilt from Fedora, "fedora-replace" for a few things where I needed a newer version than RHEL/EPEL, "hiwaay-add" for my packages, etc. Ideally that will make it easier for me to work with Fedora and EPEL to get my work into the repos. -- Chris Adams <[email protected]> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:37:11 -0400 From: Robert Peruzzi <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Fedora Electronics Lab through EPEL question Message-ID: <7e04d3604915e449b5f991f9da0e7d7702b64be...@mse21be1.mse21.exchange.ms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" EPEL Helpers, I'm running RHEL 5.1.19.6 and I want to be able to run CAD tools from FEL. Following directions on the EPEL web page I downloaded an EPEL package as root, then installed all the FEL tools individually with, for instance: # yum install alliance About ? of the installations succeeded, but I'll ask about the failures another time. For the "successful" installations: ? What is the next step to add the programs to PATH and the man pages to MANPATH, and make myself the owner (rather than root) and make the executables executable so I can learn to run these tools? ? Is there a few commands to do this for me or do I need to write my own script or execute the steps one at a time for each tool? ? Are there more steps I'm missing beyond editing PATH and MANPATH, then doing a chown and chmod? Thank you, Bob Peruzzi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/attachments/20100823/72bc029e/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:47:39 +0300 From: Manuel Wolfshant <[email protected]> To: EPEL development disccusion <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Fedora Electronics Lab through EPEL question Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed On 08/24/2010 12:37 AM, Robert Peruzzi wrote: > > EPEL Helpers, > > I?m running RHEL 5.1.19.6 and I want to be able to run CAD tools from > FEL. Following directions on the EPEL web page I downloaded an EPEL > package as root, then installed all the FEL tools individually with, > for instance: > > # yum install alliance > > About ? of the installations succeeded, but I?ll ask about the > failures another time. For the ?successful? installations: > > ? What is the next step to add the programs to PATH and the man pages > to MANPATH, and make myself the owner (rather than root) and make the > executables executable so I can learn to run these tools? > All packages in Fedora (and EPEL) install the binaries and the man pages in the same way. IF a package provides a runable binary it will be in your $PATH; if it has manpages, they will be below $MANPATH. You can always use rpm -ql or repoquery -l to list the content of the package that you have installed ( or even before installing) and look around to see what is installed and where. Installing as a private user rather than root can be done but is not supported. If you really want to do that, create a chroot ( or a fakeroot...) and install over there. Keep in mind that most probably those applications will need dependencies ( libraries) which will be found in the system directories,. hence will not be available in the chroot unless you specifically place them there, too > ? Is there a few commands to do this for me > find the name of binaries and locations/names of manpages: yes install as user: no > or do I need to write my own script or execute the steps one at a time > for each tool? > > ? Are there more steps I?m missing beyond editing PATH and MANPATH, > then doing a chown and chmod? > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:23:12 +0000 From: EPEL Beta Report <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: epel beta report: 20100823 changes Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Compose started at Mon Aug 23 23:02:17 UTC 2010 New package fmtools Simple Video for Linux radio card programs New package libXcm X Color Management Library New package mac-robber Tool to create a timeline of file activity for mounted file systems New package matio Library for reading/writing Matlab MAT files New package nntpgrab Download files from the usenet New package par2cmdline PAR 2.0 compatible file verification and repair tool New package perl-AnyEvent Framework for multiple event loops New package perl-BDB Asynchronous Berkeley DB access New package perl-Email-Find Find RFC 822 email addresses in plain text New package perl-ExtUtils-CChecker Configure-time utilities for using C headers, libraries, or OS features New package perl-Return-Value Polymorphic Return Values New package php-pear-Image-Canvas Common interface to image drawing New package php-pear-Net-UserAgent-Detect Extract information from an HTTP user agent New package php-pear-Structures-DataGrid-DataSource-Array DataSource driver using arrays New package php-pear-Structures-DataGrid-DataSource-DataObject DataSource driver using PEAR::DB_DataObject New package php-pear-Structures-DataGrid-DataSource-MDB2 DataSource driver using PEAR::MDB2 and an SQL query New package php-pear-Structures-DataGrid-DataSource-RSS DataSource driver using RSS files New package php-pear-Structures-DataGrid-Renderer-Pager Renderer driver using PEAR::Pager New package php-pear-Validate Validation Class for Various Data Types New package php-pear-XML-Beautifier Class to format XML documents New package php-pear-XML-Serializer Swiss-army knife for reading and writing XML files Updated Packages: dirac-1.0.2-4.el6 ----------------- * Mon Aug 23 2010 Nicolas Chauvet <[email protected]> - 1.0.2-4 - rebuilt for cppunit update in EL6 emacs-spice-mode-1.2.25-4.el6 ----------------------------- * Sun Aug 22 2010 Arun SAG <[email protected]> - 1.2.25-4 - Fixed instllation failure due to failed dependency gwave in EL5 phpMyAdmin-3.3.5.1-1.el6 ------------------------ * Fri Aug 20 2010 Robert Scheck <[email protected]> 3.3.5.1-1 - Upstream released 3.3.5.1 (#625877, #625878) - Added patch to fix wrong variable check at nopassword (#622428) qucs-0.0.15-5.el6 ----------------- * Sat Aug 21 2010 Chitlesh Goorah <chitlesh [AT] fedoraproject DOT org> - 0.0.15-5 - Patch no longer needed with freehdl-0.0.7 rmanage-0.1.8-1.el6 ------------------- * Fri Aug 20 2010 Parag Nemade <panemade AT gmail.com>- 0.1.8-1 - Update to next update version 0.1.8 sems-1.2.1-6.el6 ---------------- * Fri Aug 20 2010 Peter Lemenkov <[email protected]> 1.2.1-6 - Fixed severe issue in early_announce module (see %patch12) * Sat Jul 31 2010 Toshio Kuratomi <[email protected]> 1.2.1-5 - rebuild for python 2.7 spamassassin-FuzzyOcr-3.6.0-4.el6 --------------------------------- * Sun Aug 22 2010 Andrew Colin Kissa <[email protected]> - 3.6.0-4 - fix bugzilla bug #621785 Summary: Added Packages: 21 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 7 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:57:01 +0200 From: Iain Arnell <[email protected]> To: EPEL development disccusion <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Catalyst in EPEL 6 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 13:36, Edward Trochim <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Are there plans to bring the perl Catalyst framework to EPEL 6? The runtime >> and many of the plugins are already in Fedora 12. I am interested in >> providing any help that is needed; however, I have never created any >> packages for either Fedora or EPEL. >> > > No one has expressed an interest before. I would say that the first > thing to look for is help in the Fedora Perl SIG It certainly seems possible. I only find 40 missing deps for a minimal installation. The biggest problem is that last time I checked, Chris Weyl wasn't interested in EPEL. berrange perl-Array-Diff berrange perl-Module-CPANTS-Analyse * cweyl perl-Catalyst-Action-RenderView cweyl perl-Catalyst-Devel cweyl perl-Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader cweyl perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Static-Simple cweyl perl-Catalyst-Plugin-SubRequest cweyl perl-Catalyst-Runtime cweyl perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT cweyl perl-Config-Any cweyl perl-Data-Alias cweyl perl-Data-Dump * cweyl perl-Data-Visitor cweyl perl-File-ChangeNotify cweyl perl-File-Modified cweyl perl-HTTP-Request-AsCGI cweyl perl-MooseX-Emulate-Class-Accessor-Fast cweyl perl-MooseX-MethodAttributes cweyl perl-MooseX-Params-Validate cweyl perl-MooseX-SemiAffordanceAccessor cweyl perl-namespace-autoclean cweyl perl-String-RewritePrefix cweyl perl-Test-use-ok cweyl perl-Text-SimpleTable cweyl perl-Tie-ToObject cweyl perl-Tree-Simple-VisitorFactory eseyman perl-Variable-Magic iarnell perl-Devel-Hide iarnell perl-Term-Size-Any iarnell perl-Term-Size-Perl iburrell perl-Path-Class * lkundrak perl-Test-MockObject * spot perl-UNIVERSAL-can * spot perl-UNIVERSAL-isa * steve perl-Devel-Caller * till fcgi * tremble perl-B-Hooks-EndOfScope * tremble perl-MooseX-Types * tremble perl-namespace-clean * tremble perl-Test-Kwalitee * (*) already exists in EPEL, but no builds for EL-6 yet. -- Iain. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:59:17 +0100 From: Mark Chappell <[email protected]> To: EPEL development disccusion <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Catalyst in EPEL 6 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Edward Trochim wrote: > We are seriously considering using Catalyst for a new webapp we will be > developing soon and we want to be able to deploy it using the same mechanisms > as all our other software. We could use CPAN, and we are prepared to go that > route if we need to, but we would prefer to keep everything in RPMs. There > are actually several deployment strategies I am investigating right now, this > is just one of them. Are you already a Fedora Packager? If so then cweyl seems quite happy to let people maintain his packages over in EPEL. The packages I've not built yet in that list are because I've not had chance to chase done the last few dependencies and I've been on holiday and am about to move country. I'm willing to help co-maintain the extra packages in EPEL, but I'm unlikely to be doing that much over the next 2 to 3 weeks. 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