On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 03:43:03 PM Michael Wolf wrote:
> >> Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> ...snip...
> >> 
> >>> > 1) Who is championing an architecture?
> >>> 
> >>> Primarily IBM, but this will widen with the OpenPOWER foundation and
> >>> it's members widening and HW from that initiative starting to become
> >>> available. In the case of aarch64, if that happens, there will be
> >>> similarities through Linaro Enterprise Group (LEG).
> >> 
> >> Would we then have a tracker bug and a way for maintainers to call on
> >> these resources when/if their packages don't build?
> >> 
> >>> > 2) Where do developers get access to hardware that they can debug
> >>> > issues if they want to.
> >>> 
> >>> I'll let Mike (from IBM) answer this one in detail but there's a
> >>> number of Universities hosting publicly accessible instances of HW
> >>> with a process in place, Linaro has similar process with access to
> >>> aarch64 HW running Fedora releases.
> >> 
> >> This would be good to know.
> >> 
> >>> > 3) How do we remove an architecture for whatever reasons?
> 
> [Possible
> 
> >>> > ones could be it turns out that CentOS i686 is dropped after one
> >>> > subrelease... or PPC64be is dropped by IBM because everyone moved
> >>> > to PPC64le. Or Itanium3 comes out and no one wants x86_64.]
> >>> 
> >>> I don't see that would be any different to how we dropped PPC from
> >>> mainline Fedora back in the F-12/13 timeframe but the architectures,
> >>> once added to core RHEL, will be supported for the lifecycle of RHEL
> >>> so I don't see that this process would be any different to how we
> >>> dropped i686 or any of the 32 bit architectures in the transition
> 
> from
> 
> >>> el6 -> el7. I personally don't think it's actually worth expending
> 
> too
> 
> >>> much time on this process until the issue arises, cross the bridge
> >>> when we get there so to speak.
> >> 
> >> I'm assuming we would keep ppc64 around too for now on the rhel's we
> >> support?
> >> 
> >> ...snip...
> >> 
> >>> I don't see those issues any different to any of the other
> >>> architectures or hardware that's needed to run Fedora infrastructure
> >>> whether it be servers, storage or network. We have Enterprise
> 
> support
> 
> >>> on the HW with all due process.
> >> 
> >> Well, we don't have any ppc-le builders currently for EPEL.
> >> I guess this would need to be figured out off list first?
> >> 
> >> We do have secondary arch Fedora ones, but the EPEL builders are in
> 
> the
> 
> >> primary koji, so they would need to be their own thing and have
> >> support, etc. I dont think we want to share builders with Fedora
> >> secondary ppc...
> >> 
> >> We can figure this out off list tho.
> >
> >Some of the new P8 hardware that was recently racked is intended to be
> >for EPEL on ppc64/ppc64le, I just need to get it configured and build
> >VMs done etc
> 
> Just out of curiosity how many systems are currently in place to do the
> EPEL builds for BE ppc64?

There is currently two builders for ppc64 

Dennis

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