On 18 February 2016 at 19:16, ~Stack~ <i.am.st...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/18/2016 06:29 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On 18 February 2016 at 14:13, ~Stack~ <i.am.st...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 02/18/2016 01:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:24:58 -0700 >>>> Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> [snip] >>>>> 1. Packages will never disappear. [They don't disappear from Fedora 12 >>>>> even if it is archived.. ] >>>> >>>> To my understanding we never made this promise. We should try and >>>> communicate why it's NOT something we promise. >>> >>> Could you elaborate on this please? I have asked before, but didn't >>> really get an answer. I don't understand this. >>> >> >> Software in EPEL follows many of the same rules as software in Fedora. >> If there isn't an active maintainer the software is removed. This is >> because a lot of people expect that the software is going to be >> getting updates and bug fixes when it is there. If it isn't there it >> is clear that it isn't getting any bug fixes. >> >> While as a user this is a major pain in the butt, on the other side >> (maintainers and developers of the software) it is a major pain when >> the opposite occurs. Developers get complaints about software they no >> longer have any interest in and try to find someone to get rid of the >> old software. People who are maintainers of other packages get long >> hate emails about why is this software still in XYZ repository if no >> one is going to care about it. It burnt out a lot of the early >> repository people because they had made a package for someone at some >> point but really didn't have any care for it to be there any longer >> but all they were getting was crap for it being there. > > Thanks for replying. Makes sense. But what would the harm be to move a > package into a separate "retired" repo? Community would know that it > isn't maintained and yet the package wouldn't just disappear completely. > I guess the difficult question would then be, how long is the package > kept till it needs to be pruned? 1yr? 6mo? Still, it would be nice to > give the user base the option to pull the packages they need out on a > long enough scale that they have time to discover it with new builds. >
So every package ever signed is still in the koji build server if you know where to look for it. However I am hoping next week to write up some proposals that could accomplish this. > I also wonder how many people have been bit by this. I know I have > supplied packages out of my repos for others before, but it has only > been a handful. It seems to have bitten me several times in the last > year and all were for EL6, but (fingers crossed) I am done with the EL6 > boxes in <2yrs with a full migration to either EL7 or Ubuntu LTS and > won't need the EL6 repo any more. :-) > A lot of people have been bit as it is nearly a daily occurrence in #epel on the irc server. > Thanks again! > ~Stack~ > > > _______________________________________________ > epel-devel mailing list > epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ epel-devel mailing list epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
