On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 14:48, Miro Hrončok <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10. 02. 21 20:24, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 14:19, Miro Hrončok <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On 10. 02. 21 19:53, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > fedpkg-minimal > > > epel-release > > > epel-rpm-macros > > > > > > Those make perfect sense to me. > > > > > fedpkg > > > koji > > > bodhi > > > > But I don't understand why those are required. What am I missing? > > > > > > A lot of EPEL developers do their development on an EL system and use > the base > > tools to do so. That needs fedpkg to be on that system to talk to > koji/bodhi and > > a host of other items. In order to get fedpkg to do that you end up > needing > > parts of koji and bodhi because of library needs. That requires the yak > train. > > Oh, so this is only needed to make EPEL "self hosting" in a sense. So > packagers > can contribute to EPEL 9 from an EL 9 system. > > I agree that this is a valuable goal, but should this be an essential part > of > the initial "bootstrap"? > > Well it depends on what bootstrap means. Is it 'what is needed to have a package set to call it EPEL' or 'what are the minimal set of packages needed for an EPEL packager to be able to work' In the past it was enough to get enough of the package set together that others can build and add packages to the distro. Since a LOT of packages use fedpkg local etc for their testing/porting.. having fedpkg fully functional was a requirement. However that does mean extra work for things like this which no one is working on and no one is paying anyone to work on. So maybe the group should say it is a requirement that development is done in Fedora instead. > I'm asking because I know that yak train has a lot of packages, including > some > deprecated that I maintain in Fedora. So I'd rather see a real maintainer > deciding to package e.g. python-nose or python-mock for EPEL 9, than a SIG > member who is more likely to import/build it once and move on. > > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > _______________________________________________ > epel-devel mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] > -- Stephen J Smoogen.
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