I assume we should use the same number as on the general call for our 7 AM PDT call on this issue
Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-421-0025
Toll dial-in: 1-770-615-1242
Tie-line dial-in: 421-0025
Participant passcode: 876927
I do not have the main code, but I assume that Jim / Ricardo does...
Cheers
Per Kroll
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Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework
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I can definitely be on the con call tomorrow, just might not have good computer access. Not sure yet.
I'll take a pass at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=159211 and open a similar bug for design tasks if appropriate. I really prefer introducing a new bug, keeps it clean.
- Scott
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ruehlin
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: [epf-dev] Inconsistency: Additional Performers
Scott and I just got off the phone about this. Here’s what we recommend to address this:
1. Have a concall at 7 AM Pacific tomorrow. Go through the architecture & development tasks and see if they need additional performers. If a task does warrant it, determine which step(s) that task is involved in, and assign someone to write the content.
2. After the call, everyone writes the content they’ve committed to and submits it to CVS. At 10:00 pacific all changes should be in CVS and everyone reviews each other’s materials. Note any glaring problems.
3. Have a quick concall at 10:30 Pacific where any showstoppers are communicated (hopefully there will be none). After the call the original writers fix the task steps as appropriate.
Scott can’t be on the call in the morning so he’s going to look it over tonight and send his recommendations.
If people think this scenario would work, I’ll set up the meeting. If someone has an easier solution then let’s do that!
Thanks,
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "Scott W. Ambler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Inconsistency: Additional Performers
Agreed. We need to update these tasks ASAP.
Should we post bugs for each individual task and then a parent bug?
- Scott
On Thu, September 28, 2006 5:35 pm, Per Kroll said:
> Hi,
>
> we have a pretty significant difference in usage of Additional
> Performance.
>
> For the Intent and PM tasks , we have many additional performers to
> articulate the collaborative nature, which is enabled by having all roles
> in teh collaboration layer
> For the Solutions tasks, we have normally no additional performers. I am
> fine with that for some tasks like "Run tests", where you do not need to
> collaborate with tons of people, but I do not like that the architect is
> more or less doing all architecture work without collaborating with
> everybody in the team, or the developer do design without working with
> analyst and tester (architect is already there). I think Design shold be a
> collaborative task....
>
> What do you others think? I am afraid that current implementation will
> come across as more traditional than agile....
>
> I think this can be addressed by addressing the 3 arch tasks, + design
> task..
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