As an end user of EPFC and OpenUP, I can tell you that I would greatly appreciate having additional materials around how to successfully use OpenUP.
Our very small shop (4 developers) is moving from having virtually no documented processes to a customized version of OpenUp and the amount of material to review, ingest and integrate with our unwritten process is nearly overwhelming. Further, we will need to be able to eventually present OpenUp from the stakeholders' point of view and that will have to an even more simplified view. That said, I really like the idea of having an abridged version of OpenUp as a starting place. It's essentially what I'm in the process of building now since my group does not want to try to delve into OpenUp too deep or too fast. Jan Fincher Business Applications Analyst Division of Rehabilitation and Liquidation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: epf-dev Digest, Vol 20, Issue 39 Send epf-dev mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/epf-dev or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of epf-dev digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wednesday Release Planning Call (Per Kroll) 2. Fw: Notes from today's call (Per Kroll) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:13:31 -0400 From: Per Kroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Wednesday Release Planning Call To: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Paulo, I think this is an excellent point. I think that these examples needs to come from projects where people harvest, versus being produced as examples... Otherwise people will not see them as 'real' Also, in practices, you need examples from different project types... We have repeatadle run in to the problem when showing customers examples that they say "hey, this is from insurance industry. We are in telecom. We cannot use these examples..." So, I think the solution needs to be that people are willing to harvest (and clean up) actual artifacts. It is ok that they are imperfect. No project produces all 'perfect' artifacts, you produce just enough for what you need to move on.... So, if anybody has projects to harvest from, pls go ahead! Cheers Per Kroll Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework Rational Software, IBM Corp (M) 408-219-2963 Paulo Moreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/2007 10:59 AM Please respond to Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List <[email protected]> To Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List <[email protected]> cc Subject Re: [epf-dev] Wednesday Release Planning Call Hello, I just want to say some words to collaborate :-) Here in Brazil, i see people leaving college with no knowledge of software development process, but they want to learn a process that gives them a way to do their job. IMHO, i think if we give to community, complete examples(cases) of the process with all artifacts filled and linked/related with tasks that generate it, something like a reverse approach to the normal way of using a process, it will be easier to learn the process because they will have concrete things on hand, that could be adapted to their reality. hope this help, Cheers, Paulo Moreira PS: Perhaps some kind of survey can help to catch the community desire. Steve Adolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: Hello everyone: After last week?s call, I was thinking more about what I believe is necessary to include in the next release of OpenUP. In my opinion a methodology does not survive and prosper based on its own merits, it survives because there is a community. IMHO, XP and Scrum have taken off because they are easy to get started with (although the ease of getting started does not necessarily imply ease of use), they have charismatic champions telling their audience what the audience wants to hear. There is a wide range of supporting material including books and courses to help people get started with these methods. If OpenUP is to survive and find its place in the hearts and minds of developers then we need to focus on capturing people?s imaginations. In this era of 10 second sound bites we need to do that quickly. I would like to propose the following activities for general and overarching issues: 1) We need an OpenUP course ? or more to the point, course material we can spin into a half day tutorial or re-spin into a two day ?hands on? workshop. Something that not only introduced OpenUP but iterative development. A possible course title is ?Iterative Development with OpenUP?. 2) I think we need a version of OpenUP that is less intimidating than the version we have at the moment. OpenUP is suppose to be for small teams yet it has the appearance of a voluminous and complex process. What if we created some kind of ?abridged? version that reduced the cognitive load on the early adopters? This version would not be maintained as part of the composer. Rather, it would be more like a cheat sheet that simply captured the essence, phase, iterations, work item list, focus on architecture, risk management. A version that if a person took a half day OpenUP tutorial they had at least a chance of making a positive change using OpenUP. 3) I also believe we need to strongly encourage and support translation efforts. I know there was some interest in creating a Russian translation of OpenUP, but I do not know what has happened since. 4) A book? I was intrigued by the suggestion of creating a ?red book?. I don?t know if I can physically sequester myself with a writing team, but I am willing to wager that we have enough material between us to create a simple book. Perhaps ?Post Agile Development with OpenUP? These are just some thoughts I had for tomorrow?s call. Look forward to chatting with you all? Steve _______________________________________________ epf-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/epf-dev Flickr agora em português. Você clica, todo mundo vê. Saiba mais. _______________________________________________ epf-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/epf-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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