Hello Steve. I think we should look into keeping everything hosted on eclipse.org/epf. The development piece could move to the background. Creating a community and attracting traffic is much more important for the project. Hence, I like your ideas very much, but would like to suggest to implement them on our eclipse site first.
Eclipse.org would also definitely always attract more traffic and would be ranked higher in search engine results than any other site you would be creating. If you need a free-form wiki in addition to EPF Wiki then Eclipse offers such wiki technology as well that we could use (check out the EPF Wiki user documentation). Eclipse also has the infrastructure to support Webinars, podcasts, demos, whitepapers, etc. They even support blogs: http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/. Contributing practices without going through Eclipse I would find difficult and extra work for us. How would you sort out the legal requirements for reusing it for EPF? Page by page? Thanks and best regards, Peter Haumer. ______________________________________________________________ PETER HAUMER, Dr. rer. nat. Rational Method Composer | Eclipse Process Framework Rational Software | IBM Software Group ______________________________________________________________ From: "Steve Adolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List'" <[email protected]> Date: 10/07/2008 16:23 Subject: [epf-dev] Input for tommorow's committer meeting Hello Everyone: As part of our efforts towards EPF enablement, I have reserved the following domain names which I will donate to EPF: www.epfalliance.com www.epfalliance.org www.openepf.com www.openepf.org Ok that's all well and good, so why do we need an EPF website, or what will differentiate the EPF website from www.eclipse.org/epf? The way that I see it is the eclipse website is the development website, this is where we create and share content and enablement materials - essentially try to set the "gold standard" for what EPF is and the content for enablement materials. The EPF website supports the EPF user community with blogs, and experience reports about the adoption and use of EPF and not about the day to day struggle of developing EPF (although this is where we may find a strategic wish list). The EPF website would also become the "practice" exchange, people are able to contribute their practices to others without necessarily having to go through eclipse. The site also support for a certification program. How should this all work? Here is a possible scenario: 1) we form a not for profit society - EPF Alliance which is responsible for promoting EPF 2) EPF alliance owns the EPF website 3) The initial EPF board are the eclipse committers and regular contributors 4) We create an EPF cirriculum - potentially including exams 5) We create "core training content" For example, the two slide sets attached to this e-mail are taken from larger courses I am creating. These "core" sets are contributed to www.eclipse.org and anyone can use them to create EPF training material. 6) We certify EPF trainers. Certification is based on the trainer following the cirriculum and starting with our "core" material. Individual EPF trainers can all have variations and mix and match, but we know the core ideas are presented consistently. 7) We post white papers, blogs on EPF usage 8) We provide links to EPF trainers 9) etc…. The attached slide set is just a sample of how we could present EPF structure and content. I am building a larger course around this. The sample is small to get this e-mail in under EPF-Dev's 10MB limit. On the Eclipse website we could keep a set of "core" courses (even a core set of clip art with the representative symbols for EPF, e.g. the flower petal model - if we agree that is how we want to model this). This set of slides shows how to grow EPF up to accommodate a requirements discipline - in this example use cases. Imagine for a moment someone who wanted to incorporate a different requirements practice, or an MDD practice into EPF, they could take a core set of notes, and show how to build up the kernel to support MDD. Or CM or…. you get the idea. We have consistent way of presenting EPF while letting any number of practitioners put their own unique spin on it. These are just some ideas I'm tossing out there, but in business I believe you make money by making it possible for other people to use your product/service to make money. I think we can enable EPF if we make it easy for other people to enable EPF… shall we discuss this tomorrow? What I would like to discover if anyone else shares this vision. If enough of us do, then we should start developing a real action plan ( - where to host the EPF site, creating standard presentation contents, an EPF cirriculum, etc) One more suggestion, sooner or later we will likely have another EPF F2F. Rather than doing a conventional F2F, what do you think to turning this into an EPF conference, possibly making an arrangement to publish? This is not something I want to take on for the near term, but is it possible we could for example co-locate an EPF conference with a RUC? best regards, Steve Adolph[attachment "EPF Course Demo Set.pdf" deleted by Peter Haumer/Cupertino/IBM] _______________________________________________ epf-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/epf-dev
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