Thanks for the comments. It doubt it is a least action Universe. Have your read 
into chaos 
theory? It presents some interesting features not explicable otherwise. How 
would you explain a 
supernova, or Halton Arp's spawning of young galaxies by old ones? My now 
intertretation of the 
atom is as the law of three, postive and negative interaction harmonised and 
balanced by the 
proton which does not have a fixed value, perhaps not unlike a gaspedal of a 
car? You'd have to 
be using a special meaning for 'least', in which case least would mean "just 
right" or suited 
to the occasion.

C.T. proposes that order and chaos as Bohr, or was that Planck?, his 
complementarity are it. 
While least action is sort of Ockham like 'simple' again chaos theory shows 
that very simple to 
fast bifurcate into complex. I can't exactly reproduce the arguments of course 
but I am 
inpressed with some of the explanations. My fancy favours that pertinent levels 
or appropriate 
levels of force'energy seems better? Order after all is a selective subset of 
chaos, as 
distinct from 'random' which is anyhow a fiction.

        Intuition, to call it that, for holistic access nicely picking out 
pertinent details for 
whatever, comes in three types, sort of
1: insertions into intellect when relaxing fronm a stint of work while minding 
a problem, 
showing a connection one had not considered. By Mind I mean attentively 
pre-occupied, like 
steeing on it.
2: Channeled take overs from intellect or beyond that which may be through any 
of the senses, 
like Kekule dreaming up his benzene ring. This includes personifications of 
angels, aliens and 
other ?indecorous? items. I dream my silly notions, dreaming in words. Then I 
sit down and more 
or less zombie thru as an article.
3: At a noumenal or what John Gowan calls psychedelic level of call it mastery. 
Like in typing 
up I used to be quite fast, now I go quite slowly, proof reading and emending 
sentences as I 
go, often coming up with words and phrases I knew not before, check out and 
find them to be 
correct.
Beyond all this I have an awareness of a greater awareness than mine, at a same 
time just 
unaffecedly observing and on occasion inlfuencing events, like there are 
certain things I 
cannot bring myself to do, which makes me laugh at debates about morality. On 
the other hand I 
have has some 70 odd weird happening when I am in a crisis of sorts, it simply 
changes and 
disappears. For another I do 'wild catting' a phrase jumps to mind I go surfing 
and somewhere 
among the pile of screen stuff there appears an item I needed but left for lack 
of evidence. 
on several occasions it saved my life. Hence call myself fey, not psychic.

I'm quite against drugs, although there are some good ones. They're just a 
chemical bind that 
lasts for its while. However for a suitably prepared mind it can be an eye 
opener. Aldous used 
L.S.D, so did Tim Leary, but both already were psychic as hell. When writing 
Aldous was, like 
Thomas Mann, totally zombied unaware of his environment. And he comes from a 
long line of 
geniuses. And yes one still does not know how but with practice it can be 
turned on and off. It 
surely is not  done by any physical sense or trigger I know of. Another one is, 
I wrote an 
article on the scientif metod veing a match to the oracular methid. I wonered 
sine wgy the had 
not occurred to anyone before, And Bingo I just was shown a book ...the Myth of 
the Scientific 
Method, H. Bauer, where before I only had Dean Conant of Harvard calling it the 
alleged SM. It 
is a myth having hardly a thing to do with method, only a pernicious insistence 
to find out, 
whatever it is. And sometime it just pops up in the head, but not always. One 
has to put in an 
earnest of intent.



Duration uuhhmm, Well there's exo-senses the five of objects in space, but as 
to time it is an 
experience the location of which cannot be nailed down. So give the exosenses 
their 
frequencies, harmonised somehow into a world model. If so then what about 
awareness able to 
speed up and slow down like making a film or tape do that, so we can inspect 
the parts and all 
that. So although time and space are paired, we've no proof they are, except 
for us. If you go 
thru subjective experiences of time it comes at various speeds. I recall 
hitting a brick wall 
at about 1 k or less an hour, my brakes failed, and it seemed to last forever 
at a same time as 
I knew it was not. Anyhow I am not very good with time, without a watch I'm 
lost. An Uncle of 
mie though could not wear a watch, it simply stopped but not when worn by 
others, and he could 
tell the exact time, to the minute. To me the material universe is a facade, 
one, perforce, I 
have to put up with. We're certainly parochial in our interpretaions of the 
universe, that's 
where science fails.

Build imaginary objects, funny that, I've just written an article on Arts of 
Memory devices, as 
used in oral times, nothing like you can read up on inet as mnemonics, which is 
kid stuff. Take 
the kabala, that is a schema of pure relations divided vertially into male, and 
female outer 
pillars and horizontally into Crown for the noumenal, and then for formation or 
process, 
structure or pattern and dangling below kingdom for the world of appearances, 
which is about as 
neat as you may get it of a pale ghost of a theory of the universe.

adrian







Johnlawrencereedjr wrote
:
> Thank You, That's why I post, to reach others who may follow up on
> what's written. The sillies, having dogmatic minds auto project
> everybody else has. I have had mystical experiences, have noumenal
> access, not phenomenal as do many. I like John Curtis Gowan, his Book.
> "Operations of Increasing Order", is a freebie on internet. He had two
> degrees, one in math one in psychology. JohnCG used a Sigma curve of
> Trance, art and Psychedelic or transcendent. In Trance we get insights
> unrelated to anything else. For Art we play'project them in various
> forms until something fits together, The Psychedelic amounts to full,
> conscious access of how it works.
> jr writes>
> There are some accomplished physicists alive today that foolishly
> regard the psychedelic experience as invalid, with respect to the
> context you refer to.  They have the idea that the mind cannot benefit
> from chemically altered consciousness. It's a pity.  Alduous Huxley
> was an influence on me during my youth and I have benefitted from it.
> 
> It's fascinating that John who says he never had any transcendental
> experiences worked that
> out. I took his creativity test and, apparently, scored highest, funny
> that. The mystical state is funny as it blows the mind out of all
> sensory data crunching. It serves  as a gateway to henceforth self
> paced further development.
> jr writes>
> One can recognize possibilities of an extra-sensory nature without
> going there. Like those who die and are brought back, who speak of a
> tunnel of light. At the far end of which a voice offers "Are you
> ready?" Where you have a choice in cases. The psychedelic experience
> however, must be directly sensed. It allows you to "work it" but you
> still don't know how and the attempt to articulate that experience
> results in descriptive words that stretch the envelope like:
> electroskeletoidenal and psycho-amplitudinous, where nonetheless you
> can purge illness from your body.
>  I have a similar interpretation for Time. Taking our rather varied
> experiences as products of harmonic resonances then the left over,
> unused access levels blend together in a bland background noise as
> time, not to include the lot that produced the now falsified Big Bang,
> but very like it. Ditto Gravity by that correlates to an energy push
> of fields way outside the materially obvious. Then it is that the
> noise a mystical experience senses and we can peel it apart in so
> called other dimensional access. By that this noise equates to the
> random, which ain't random but very polyphonic.
> jr writes>
> Time results from our sense of duration. Our sense of being.
> Consciousness. A direction exists for time beginning at our birth and
> ending at our projected death. Outside of this, with respect to the
> observed universe, time manifests as a regular and necessary, least
> action cyclic property of stable physical systems. We seek to describe
> the universe after our own image.
> 
> Lightning works that way. At 2 billion Volts difference between sky
> and earth they found out, once we could fly in the stratosphere, that
> Lightning coming from clouds is fed far higher up in the sky and, it
> seems, ultimately from para solar fields.
> jr writes>
> I have projected a notion that the vortex manifestation of hurricane
> motion is connected to the dynamo that is the core of the Earth. Also
> lightning. However I have not taken these notions any further, altho'
> I have developed a basis for their cause, that is rational but not
> uniquely specific wrt cause,
> CHaitin, on Foundations of math, on his website has: Four provably
> equivalent definitions of mathematics:
> 1: Mathematics is the part of science you could continue to do if you
> woke up tomorrow and discovered the universe was gone. I do not know
> the author of this elegant definition put on the web by Dave Rusin.
> jr writes>
> This is equivalent to saying that we can build imaginary objects from
> dimensionless stationary or moving over time and space points, lines
> and angles solely within our mind and discover relationship after
> relationship that are properties of so constructed objects with some
> regular proportion.  The problem with the universe being gone (outside
> the fact that we too would be gone) however, is that we could never
> connect this regularity to a universe.
> 
> 2: The human mind has first to construct forms, independently, before
> we can find them in
> things. Albert Einstein.
> jr writes>
> This may be correct but due to the fact that the universe is a least
> action universe and given enough time, we would have to make a
> connection sooner or later. Which comes first, the observance of
> regularity in the universe, or the mathematical discovery of
> regularity, is open.
> 
> 3: In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to
> them. John von Neumann.
> jr writes>
> This has been true. Changed once we recognize that stable systems are
> least action systems and the math represents least action well.
> 4: Mathematicians are mad tailors: they are making "all the possible
> clothes" hoping to make also something suitable for dressing...
> Stanislaw Lem, "Summa Technologiae" (translated) ie, it's axiomatic
> and abstract, can produce actual and fictional patterns. So it's no
> guarantee its recipes of patterns are actually valid. Beyond this
> though math intimates how our brain works, after mind had set up the
> parameters. That's much the same as psychiatry for that social
> consensus reality's 'hallucination', Where on earth and in heaven does
> it come from? It surely does not come from outside the cosmic reality.
> So if so, it is a narrowly conceived 'reality' trying....
> jr writes>
> The math reflects the least action characteristics of the stable
> universe. The quantities that operate within this least action
> universe are considered fundamental if they are conserved. The
> property of being conserved within a least action universe means that
> they operate within the least action parameters without effect (except
> as we might sense (quantify) their existence. This does not make them
> causal outside of our interaction with them.)
> I apologize for responding to you even slower than others but I must
> have available time to extract addressable ideas from your posts.
> Have a good time.
> johnreed
> > 
> 



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