Hi Carlos, I'm going to read your post through again before I respond directly. I partly have modern versions of the hermeneutic traditions in mind and something away from 'subjective knowing' that still respects an individual-collective notion of the person and the potential of radical overthrow of the way we can all think by understanding what the 'best mind can do'.
On 20 Jan, 11:48, "Serenity Smiles" <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes me liking this, and the agent is Yacin (your sin, Allah) from Algeria?? > lol, Obama sends Justin Timberlake to get him and bring him to me at the > White Hart > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "einseele" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:35 AM > To: "Epistemology" <[email protected]> > Subject: [epistemology 11211] Re: Biological Information > > > > > Hello Neil > > > I welcome this approach to a closer concept of information > > >>Paradigm cases of structures with semantic > >> information pictures, sentences, programs are built by the thought > >> and action of intelligent agents. > > > Paradigm is wrong, intelligent agents do not build any information > > (lets put all together within the word). We all forget that once we > > were 2 and how we learned language, this is to say that Georges once > > was intelligent enough to learn his mother tongue, he did not created > > that information, was not built by him as the intelligent agent he is. > > >>So we need to show how genes and > >> cells neither intelligent systems themselves nor the products of > >> intelligence can carry semantic information, and how the information > >> they carry explains their biological role. We need some kind of > >> reductive explanation of semantic information. > > > Cells, proteins, in short "things" do not carry information, they are > > there to point to information, and "the agent" (remove intelligent) > > will read and "understand" accordingly. If she makes that means > > survival, if not she dies. > > > A friend musician of me, uses to invite me to the front of a public > > building, and he plays on his guitar the "melody/rhythm" reading the > > open/closed windows sequence. I dont believe the building is > > "carrying" that music, there is not music whatsoever, and on my end > > I'm certainly blind to it, but he plays it believe me, air > > conditioning, moldings, etc, help to play the the score. He laughs and > > enjoys a lot, > > >>If we think of genes or cells as literally carrying semantic information, > >> our problem changes. > > > When you say here "semantic information" you use two words to > > express...? > > semantic is attibute of information? Then information is leading > > to...? > > > But all this is old stuff, > > > When medicine says for instance that: hormones are "chemical > > messengers" is telling us something enormous that we actually do not > > see. Wait a minute, please read slowly the huge consequence of that. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Epistemology" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.
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