Dear sir sound is the life for dead symbols and as they are critical and confusing.Language becomes dynamic in use but still partial and indirect so it produces a virtual world which is away from really real.
thank you sekhar On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:46 PM, awori achoka <[email protected]>wrote: > If you limit language to merely the verbalized form---then you miss the > point. Knowledge is a universal concept IT is there. How you acquire and > communicate it---is a different matter. Non verbalized symbols and signs are > as critical as verbalized symbols. > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Sekhar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let us examine knowledge and its functions as well as its capacities >> and dimensions. Knowledge requires a platform to operate, which called >> language. As a beginning, will it not be easy to explore what we speak >> and write? How do we acquire linguistic skills? Is not the word an >> abstract entity all by itself? Finally, are we using the word or used >> by it? >> To think of thinking is the need of the day, but do we know what >> thinking is or do away by the process itself? Word is a window to its >> knowledge and feelings generated. The teacher and taught, without two >> elements there is neither education nor the world we visualize. The >> same gap is from word to real, since the word apple is not real, so >> the gap is the problem. To solve this problem are we not creating >> innumerable problems? Simply we say that the problem lies in ones own >> perception, alternatively the world we experience. >> Do we aware of the functioning of linguistic patterns or just carried >> away by presumptions and assumptions, which are part of linguistic >> ideology? It is surprising to note that all philosophical statements >> are logical derivations. Logic based on two, one is constant and the >> other is variable. Out of these we derive, the third, which is a name, >> imposed on real. Name – its image – feeling – idea, the steps we call >> functioning of language. Linguistic operation is three dimensional in >> its volume, directional, and dynamic in its character. Is it not the >> whole of the intellect, which we carry all the time with different >> names, such as mind, heart, consciousness, inner world etc? >> Knowledge is the outcome of interactive principle which is result >> oriented in its conceptual form. Therefore, concept drives humans to >> its result. However voluminous in its stature and predictive in its >> character still it is partial and indirect by its nature. The >> relational arrangement between nouns – verb – tense is the relational >> attitude between subject and object. This relation may be rational or >> irrational. Opposites ingrained in language, so pessimism verses >> optimism, order – disorder, theism – atheism, and so on rooted in >> language but not anywhere in nature. Essentially languages constructed >> for memorizing past events and experiences so to refine them in >> present. Even the refined state of consciousness is inadequate to meet >> the present. Therefore, there is continuous strife for better >> knowledge in the world in which we live. By its very inception, >> knowledge is divisive phenomena hence can offer division only. It is >> the witness to its own activity, which is the reason of its expansion. >> These are the grounding factors for conceivable reality and >> experience. Memory is past and functioning in present and projects the >> future project. >> It is clear that the trio KNOWER – KNOWN – KNOWLEDGE is all past and >> time bound. If there is no transformation to intelligence, this >> knowledge remains a mere tin. Formulas require explanation. >> Explanation may be in the shape of a song, dance, and drama but there >> is every chance of deriving mythical ideology, so to save from this >> kind of diversions, there is philosophical enquiry. Enquiry is full of >> logic, which is based on mathematics, when not used in conjunction of >> subject, express disastrous and conflicting statement >> Knowledge is a cluster of statements. Essence of accumulated knowledge >> is called as intuition, which instigate, HOW? Word as is an image and >> its produced image is mounted upon primary image. Two lifeless images >> are interacting because of sound. >> The whole of thought process depends on calculation. Movement of >> thought is calculation, but only factual but not real. Natural >> intelligence is covered by accrued intellect like fire is covered by >> smoke, mirror is covered by dust, but smoke is taken for granted as >> fire. Since there is no clear distinction between factuality and >> reality, all suffocated ideas are expressed as real. Ignorance verses >> intelligence, these two opposites are responsible for tons of >> literature. Phenomenal approach to language may solve problems since >> it deals with what we see, hear, feel etc in contrast to what may be >> real and true about the world we feel and live. >> We have to bear in mind that we are exploring virtual world, otherwise >> known as linguistic knowledge, which has a fraction of relation with >> the real. This relation is only with image, which we get out of sound. >> Sound and touch are the basic ingredients to formulate a picture. Our >> so-called mind is nothing but the analysis of these pictures. Here we >> are not going to propose any new idea or concept but investigating the >> gifted knowledge from our ancestors and trying to find out its >> relative strength, which we inherit as a language. So let us begin >> with our own mother tongue, which we learn in the form of a song, >> story, an epic, or sayings, which stand as a translator throughout the >> rest of our lives. We call this translator as mind, heart, etc. We >> live in a pluralistic world which in fact is not real but a virtual >> one, which is also called MAYA (Sanskrit). >> Belief plays a vital role in our lives, without which, we cannot even >> imagine. Thus, derived imagination is the stepping-stone for entire >> human activity. Language is not as simple as it appears to be. >> Arranged relation between sound and symbol and their picture is >> thought and its provocation, now the question is whether it would be >> possible to examine this invisible provocation? If with what? >> Relation with a mirror is the same with a language. Whatever formulae, >> theories, explanations, and concepts thus derived are only limited to >> those images which help our movement both inside and outside. >> Habituated to live in a conceptual environment, without which we feel >> homeless. Yet we talk of mukthi, moksha, freedom etc. This we may call >> self-deception. Education through a language advocated since eons. >> Veda (Sanskrit) means to know and this functions over two, one is >> (memory) smrithi and the other is sruthi (order of sound) but both are >> invisible. Therefore, there are different names for the outcome of >> combinations and permutations. Unfortunately, we hang on to these >> names. All invisible feelings are generated in-between two images, one >> is of self and the other is of the object, and the activity continues >> forever until there is true enquiry. Then only knowledge acquired can >> function in a sane order. >> KUMARILA BHATTU (Vedic exponent) said that words convey their own >> meanings, not related to something else. Descriptive sentences are >> significant. Sentence meaning as composed of separate word meanings >> held together in a relational structure. Word meaning formed is the >> simplest unit of sense. Persons thus learn the meaning of words by >> seeing others talking as well as from advice of elders. >> MANDAN MISRA said that phenomenal distinctions are unreal and >> appearance of immutable word essence. >> K LANGER said that language is only means of articulating thought. >> Essential act of thought is symbolization. World of humans made of >> symbol and its meaning. >> PRABHAKARA said that all knowledge is verbal which is inferential in >> its character. >> HUXLEY said that we sin by attributing concrete significance to >> meaningless pseudo knowledge as real understanding. We are amphibians >> living simultaneously in the world of experience and the world of >> notions. >> SANKHYA PHILOSOPHY explains that the language is the base of >> intellectual games we play with ourselves. It is responsible for the >> division of SEER – SEEN which is an egocentric ideology. This virtual >> reality is the cause and its effect of illusion. >> PATANJALI YOGA describes that two different feelings like pain and >> pleasure never occur simultaneously. Inference we derive out of a >> paragraph is only feeling. >> POORVA MEEMAMSA said every symbol is a picture and its experience is >> SEER. Entire linguistic pattern is only indicative. So the index and >> indicated are images. Combinations of several meanings of words are >> the meaning of a paragraph. >> GOUDAPADA (mandookya karikalu) explained that cause and its effect are >> interdependent and prone to change. >> SANKARA Acharya said that group of symbols is a word and expression of >> these words is creation. However, mature logical ideology may be still >> it is partial and different from the real. Negation of all >> psychological impressions is to be wise. >> PANINI (Creator of Sanskrit grammar) warned to check phonetics to >> understand the cause of difference in time. Sound is traveling in the >> human body in the shape of symbol. Totality of A to Z is self and its >> practices. >> JIDDU KRISHNA MURTHY said that word is not the real thing. >> NAGARJUNA said that the experience and reason do not give us genuine >> knowledge. >> RAMANUJA said that we could not prove the existence of an object >> without attributing, even in case of self-consciousness and in the >> object of intuition. >> WITTGENSTIEN Main source of our failure to understand is that we do >> not command a clear view of the use of our words. >> VIDYARANYA (panchadasi) Because of verbal sounds we get pictures of >> existing objects and a doubt. This happens even when there is no >> object. >> What we are destroying is the house of cards and clearing the ground >> on which they stand. Philosophy does not result in propositions, but >> rather in clarifying them. 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