On Apr 9, 6:02 pm, Georges Metanomski <[email protected]> wrote:
> --- On Fri, 4/9/10, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > From: chazwin <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [epistemology 11273] Re: Re-Write and Summary of Earlier Post--- 
> > Free  Will as Quintessential to Physics
> > To: "Epistemology" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:06 PM
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> > Whatever reality is, our understanding of it has to account
> > for the
> > succession of events.
> > Any claim to freedom of the will forms a contradiction of
> > the notion
> > of reality in which the necessity of the succession of
> > events exists.
> > ANy quintessential quality is a god of the gaps to fill any
> > thing we
> > can't account for. That does not mean that any inference
> > can be drawn
> > from what is nothing more that a metaphysical concept. Why
> > should we
> > not simply except that consciousness is a property of
> > matter and
> > energy in time and space which exists in particular
> > circumstances?
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> G:
> For the very simple reason that there ain't no sich animal as "matter"
> in physics and energy is an abstract coefficient void of phenomenal
> sense and used only to simplify abstract mathematical expressions
> coordinating observable events.
>
> Georges.
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That might be very true from a phenomenological perspective, but
whether of not any othe these things transgress our experiential world
they are of practical significance, and are pragmatic in application.
To add a fifth, quintessential 'element', does tow things; 1) reifies
the first 4, which you have said of at least one that there aint no
such thing, and 2) by being additive, by definition commits the same
fraud as the first 4.
Whilst I agree that concepts such as time, space, matter and energy
are only devices by which we model the world, adding a fifth which
fails to conform to the practical necessity of the first 4 is just
mystical nonesense.


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