Science is the study of laws or models with substantial spatial and
temporal generality.  Who did what at a specific time and place is not
a science because it lacks spatial and temporal generality.

On Sep 6, 12:06 pm, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 5:20 pm, aruzinsky <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Sep 5, 3:04 pm, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Every country does that. American too. They claim to have the first
> > > example of an electric light, but this is false. The first working
> > > electric light was invented by Farraday in 1859. The South Foreland
> > > Lighthouse was the world's first ever man made electric light, and got
> > > its power from another of Farraday's inventions the electrical
> > > generator.
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> > > On Sep 5, 4:52 pm, aruzinsky <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 22, 10:17 am, Awori <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > Is there such a thing as an original idea? Can ideas originate from
> > > > > without?
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> > > > Is imitation the opposite of your concept of "original idea"?  Many
> > > > ideas are repeated without imitation, e.g., reinventing the wheel.  It
> > > > used to be a joke that the Soviet Union/Russia claimed that many
> > > > things were invented by its citizens before famous American inventors
> > > > such as Thomas Edison.  Many of those claims were true.  Since there
> > > > is no way of knowing whether something was previously invented by
> > > > intelligent life on another planet, there is no point on dwelling on
> > > > the concept of first idea.  Instead, you should concentrate on the
> > > > concept of imitation.  For example, look at all the people jumping on
> > > > the DNA bandwagon in this thread.
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> > > > "As each organism is unique, then all DNA arrangements are original."
> > > > - Identical twins are not unique in any way related to DNA.  Any
> > > > uniqueness of identical twins should be attributed to environment.
> > > > Same for organisms that reproduce asexually.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Small talk:
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> > As a child in the early 1950s, while watching a quiz show on TV, a
> > contestant selected "Science" as a topic.  The question was, "Who
> > invented the steam engine?"  I shouted at the TV, "That's not
> > science.  That's history!"   Apparently, some immoral history buffs
> > had wormed their way into positions of authority on that TV show just
> > to shove history lessons, disguised as science, up my ass.  Probably,
> > the same kind of assholes who like to say, "Those who do not learn
> > from history are doomed to repeat it."  Regardless of my learning from
> > history, I am not doomed to reinvent the steam engine.
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> I'm not so sure I'd so easily disregard history of science as part of
> science. As a piece of trivia Newcomen's (or was it Watt's)
> achievement on a developmental level is highly significant to an
> understanding of science which is far more contingent on historical
> interests than scientist would like to admit. Steam Power massively
> enhanced our understanding of the nature of heat, energy and its
> relation to fuel and power.- Hide quoted text -
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