There are phrases in all languages I have a smattering of that mean
something like 'when the scales fall from your eyes'.  I see Cyprus
has wheeled three judges out of retirement to 'investigate' the
collapse - sounds like the prelude to a cover-up.  I and some similar
old duffer once colleagues think these matters would be best left to
cops working without hindrance under existing criminal law.  This s
quite interesting - http://rowans-blog.blogspot.co.uk/ - he's in
Manchester next week and I may go along.

On Mar 28, 3:56 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
> By the way, Archytas.... I think you've been following this story... here's
> an update, in case you missed 
> it...http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/nyregion/search-warrants-reveal-ite...
> I have no respect at all for any of the "state officials" in this area....
> I can honestly say that in my felt opinion the problem largely a matter of
> social status and connections... People of relative social "import" who are
> NEVER placed under the normal scrutiny of any authority... for reasons of
> wealth, position, reputation, nepotism, cronyism, etc.....has very much to
> do with it. As for the young fellow's psychological problems, they were
> "likely" compounded by, rather than ameliorated by, the family's
> standing....Blame the parents?... not really, but blame their "class
> hierarchy" self-regard above the welfare of their own son.... I can see
> that....
> And it is that same "class hierarchy" self- regard the the "state
> officials" here in Cunt-Etiquette (the Constipation State) have first and
> foremost on their minds....along with on the minds of the rest of the
> "upper crust"... sadly probably including the relatives of the victims....
> People don't like it when I say things like this.... but it needs
> saying....so I mollify it a bit ("probably")...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:39:29 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> > I don't think we've heard the end of the Cyprus thingy.  I expect the
> > following in the next few months:
> > 1. The amount of money in the Cyprus banks will turn out les than
> > expected
> > 2. A long list of worthies, including Lev, my mate in the Russian
> > mafia, will have moved their funds out either long before or just
> > after the public announcement of bail-in
> > 3. A whole load of dodgy securitised packages of Greek dead donkeys
> > and bags of rocking horse droppings will be found in Laiki as though
> > someone already knew it was a bad bank as far back as 2009
> > 4, A lot of very ordinary people will see their life savings evaporate
> > 5. The price of my horse's head futures will rise as my prediction on
> > the market demands for complex messaging structures come in
> > 6. Banks in Spain, Italy and France will start emitting Hawking
> > radiation - Bankia in Spain has just been bailed out for more than
> > Cyprus and is still so worthless they are packaging up the shares in
> > bundles so they meet the one cent minimum quote under Spanish Law.
>
> > Back in Blighty we are told by the BoE that our banks need £25 billion
> > to meet capital requirements after they take coming hits of £50
> > billion.  Severe under-calculation here - most bank assets across the
> > globe are based on an equity and property market held up by QE and
> > other dodges - a conservative estimate of leverage is 25 : 1 - and
> > they've been lying about everything else - so roughly a 4% drop in the
> > real assets could start wiping people out in margin calls  Cyprus just
> > might be something good - the beginning of a strategy to go after very
> > large amounts of ill-gotten loot from Singapore to Switzerland - maybe
> > starting in Luxembourg (where financial 'assets' to GDP is 21 : 1 - it
> > was only 10 : 1 in Cyprus).  If I was doing the enquiry, I'd have
> > 'systems in place' (men ashore) so no one could wire money out of
> > these places without my being able to track it and seize it  I guess
> > $20 to $30 billion might be sequestratable - the means might have to
> > be very devious.
>
> > It's hard to know what the numbers in this farce mean.  I think a fair
> > example is the £25 billion 'need for capital' in UK banks.  The UK
> > financial sector employs 4% of Brits but receives 40% of all bonuses
> > paid in the UK.  About £60 billion have been paid out in the last 5
> > years - so if they had been cut in half UK banks wouldn't need more
> > capital.  You can see this thieving through obscene payments is a big
> > part of the problem.  The other big element is legal Ponzi - the banks
> > have been able to buy investments with the criminal and tax avoiding
> > cash in ways that bloated property and other asset prices - this in
> > turn was recorded as profit on which they paid out the interest to
> > investors - but now these assets are falling or supported by QE etc.
> > They have been setting up other Ponzis (usually exchange traded funds)
> > that monopolize commodities like copper and food and are trying to
> > collapse countries to buy up toll booths (ports, airports, public
> > services).  They can't just bury this hot money in the ground as very
> > large men want interest from it.  My guess is the financialisation
> > market has already swollen to maximum possible size.  Some of the
> > banksters may now be between a rock and a hard place and about to turn
> > Queen's Evidence (grass up for reduced sentences, changed
> > identities).  A fw good cops could take down the $20 trillion plus
> > scam.
>
> > On 25 Mar, 16:34, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Well... it appears to have been decided..... the EU "sheriff" came to
> > > town,,,, and cleaned up......HAR
>
> > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/25/cyprus-bailout-deal-eu-cl...
>
> > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:32:15 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> > > > Plenty of hoHAR on Cyprus Nom and little evidence as far as I can
> > > > see.  The cover story is Russian mafia, banks pumping money into high
> > > > yield Greko-Zimbabwean rocking horse dropping futures (who would buy
> > > > them - especially with Russian mafia money?) and hence big hole in
> > > > bank balance sheets when the fictitious assets turn out to be - er -
> > > > fictional.  At least three major EU banks are involved to my
> > > > knowledge.  I suspect the Cyprus banks were made into a dead donkey
> > > > graveyard by them.  On the other side Cyprus government spending and
> > > > debt is low against the EU average (80 odd v 93%).  What sort of
> > > > excuse is it that they invested unwisely in Greek bonds?  You and I
> > > > knew this was a piss poor certain loser even in a three-legged donkey
> > > > race.  It's the sort of bet we might have made with other people's
> > > > money along with very large sacks of cash and new passports for us
> > > > truly along with plane tickets out on the day we posted such.
> > > > There must be trillions in rocking horse droppings around the world
> > > > being dumped into unwitting banks - no one with half a brain would
> > > > touch same - so it must be packaged like the AAA rated sub-primed
> > > > securitised dead donkey futures of the past.  So who has been doing
> > > > the packaging?  The old form favourites are the rating agencies and
> > > > the likes of Godforsaken Sachs, HongBong Shanghai Clusterfuck,
> > > > Narcoleys and Deutsche Jackboot - though maybe the Russian mafia
> > > > deposited some sacks of the rocking horse droppings themselves via
> > > > offers not to be refused, insisting on cash at notional value?
>
> > > > My suggestion to Cyprus is to default, re-establish the pound and give
> > > > their cops carte-blanche for a criminal investigation.  We have almost
> > > > no facts about this despite and probably because of the media fenzy.
> > > > The thing about rocking horse droppings (apart from not being caught
> > > > with one when the music stops) is that we can trace the origins.
> > > > Evidence from a criminal enquiry could show us points of origination
> > > > and lead to claims on the real assets of those who have profited from
> > > > selling them.  These could be used to pay down private household and
> > > > some company and pension debt.   hoHAR (patent pending)!  I suspect
> > > > the villains who really pulled off the scam that might have tempted us
> > > > are now in Northern Cyprus or Londonistan - somewhere bags of cash get
> > > > you good treatment.
>
> > > > On Mar 19, 8:27 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > more eurozone bank news.....
>
> >http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/19/us-eu-bankingunion-idUSBRE9...
>
> > > > > By John O'Donnell and Claire Davenport
>
> > > > > BRUSSELS | Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:53pm EDT
>
> > > > > (Reuters) - The European Union agreed on Tuesday to let the ECB
> > police
> > > > euro
> > > > > zone <http://www.reuters.com/subjects/euro-zone> banks, taking its
> > > > first
> > > > > step towards a banking union just as a levy imposed on Cypriot
> > savers
> > > > > showed that the bloc will struggle to respond in a united way to
> > bank
> > > > > problems.
>
> > > > > The European Parliament and member states' representatives sealed an
> > > > accord
> > > > > reached late last year to give the European Central Bank (ECB)
> > powers to
> > > > > supervise euro zone banks from the middle of next year.
>
> > > > > That agreement had initially been applauded as a step towards
> > > > integration.
> > > > > But the surprise levy on Cypriot bank deposits agreed as part of the
> > > > > country's bailout deal at the weekend has dented confidence that
> > Europe
> > > > > will be united in tackling bank problems rather than leaving
> > countries
> > > > to
> > > > > struggle alone.
>
> > > > > "The deeply distressing problems faced by Cyprus show how
> > insufficient
> > > > this
> > > > > step is in itself," said Martin Schulz, the German president of the
> > > > > European Parliament, calling for an EU-wide scheme to close failing
> > > > banks
> > > > > and guarantee deposits.
>
> > > > > Under the deal, banks that have assets of 30 billion euros or more
> > than
> > > > > one-fifth of their country's economic output will be overseen by the
> > ECB
> > > > > rather than national supervisors.
>
> > > > > The ECB will also be allowed to intervene if it sees problems in
> > smaller
> > > > > banks as well, giving it the clout to trigger the closure of
>
> ...
>
> read more »

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