Hi, Walter. 
Thanks for the info.  I'm not sure yet how p2 will affect the workbench 
startup logging issues, but the discussion about making it more obvious 
that a plug-in is not enabled in the configuration is definitely relevant 
to us.  I put a pointer to that bug in this bug:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=205517 

This bug was opened today to track update manager usability concerns and I 
encourage anyone who knows of current update manager usability bugs to 
post references to this bug.

thanks,
susan




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Hi, Susan.  Somewhat related to the update issue, I think, is 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174515, which concerns how 
users are notified when plugins on their machine have failed to load.  I 
would really like to see some attention to this bug - partly because I'm 
responsible for some plugins that only load on 1.5 or even 1.6, but also 
because I spend time monitoring eclipse.newcomer and this seems to be an 
ongoing source of problems there.
 
Thanks,
  -Walter Harley
   JDT APT team

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Hi, everyone.   
One of the goals for M3 is to try to define the conent/scope of our 3.4 
deliverable.  So I'm trying to balance our desire to resolve unknowns with 
getting current workflows more polished.  I'm interested in the 
community's feedback on the current M3 UI plan, which currently includes 

- improving the install/uninstall/update workflow by providing more info 
(size, time, invalid states, etc.) 
- polling for software updates and notifying the user 
- improved support for browsing repos (IU categories and filtering) 
- more info in admin artifact repo views 

(You can see the expanded detail at 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_User_Interface#Milestone_plan). 

This is a rather aggressive plan but still does not address some other big 
UI items, most notably 
- UI for rollback 
- presentation of licenses 

So if you have opinions on the pressing issues and priorities in the UI, 
please let me know via this list, or annotating bugs you care about, 
etc.... 

thanks, 
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