My understanding is that the interfaces used (and dependent types therin) need to be loadable from oustide the OSGi engine and have the service import the same (external) interface. If you were to have one interface from outside, and one inside, they would complain.

Another possibility would be to use sone kind of RMI or externalisation to get across the boundary, which would have the advantage of being usable for distributed access. Distributed OSGi might be useful for this.

Alex

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On 19 Aug 2009, at 21:32, "Michael Furtak" <mfur...@cra.com> wrote:

Hi Hal,

Thanks for those references. They were helpful. It feels like I’m cl ose, but problems remain.

Also, I’m a bit confused as to whether the noted techniques can help my problem. My understanding of the system packages and boot delega tion stuff is that it helps OSGi find classes that are not explicitl y exported from any of the OSGi bundles (i.e. java.*, javax.* stuff, etc.)

My dilemma is somewhat the opposite. I’m originating from Java, outs ide of the OSGi environment, but want to call objects created inside of OSGi. Of course, this leads to a ClassCastException when I get t he service object and try to refer to it by its interface as loaded in Java land.

I’ve attached my source w/ some class/package names changed to prote ct the innocent. Also attached is my config.ini file. Without the or g.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra directive, the ClassCastExcep tion occurs. With it, I don’t get a callback on my ServiceTrackerCus tomizer’s addedService() method.

Do you have any further thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
-Mike





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From: equinox-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:equinox-dev- boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Hal Hildebrand
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:18 PM
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You can also check out: 
http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-framework-launching-and-embedding.html

note the section "Creating and Configuring the Framework Instance", and the use of the property "org.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra" which makes this a bit easier. Works the same way with Equinox.

On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Hal Hildebrand wrote:


Sure. See http://blog.springsource.com/2009/01/19/exposing-the-boot-classpath-in-osgi/ for an in depth discussion by Costin of SS.

On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Michael Furtak wrote:


Hi Hal,

Thanks very much for your reply. I’m heartened that you’re confident in this possibility. Is there any documentation for the op tion you mention that I can refer to?

Thanks,
-Mike






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From: equinox-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:equinox-dev- boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Hal Hildebrand
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] Bridging the plain Java and OSGi classloading worlds

sure, you just have to have a class loader in common. The way this would work is to modify the exports of the System bundle (an option when starting the framework in Equinox) to export the classes from the base class path you need. Then there is no class loader issues, as they're both using the same.

On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Michael Furtak wrote:



Hi all,

I am using the EclipseStarter.startup(…) method to bring up the Equn inox framework from within a plain ol’ Java application. My question is this:

Is it possible to allow the plain ol’ Java environment to get and ca ll service objects from the OSGi side? I know their respective class loader environments are disjoint, but is there any hope at all of br idging them? Has anyone been dumb/crazy enough to want to do this?

Thanks,
-Mike




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