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From: William R. Bayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:24 PM
To: Ed Burkhead
Subject: FW: WRB Relay: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 415CD Ercoupe


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Bill Bayne
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From: William R. Bayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: February 12, 2005 7:06:41 PM CST
To: COUPERS-FLYIN <[email protected]>
Cc: Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 415CD Ercoupe


Hi Ron

I have records which make such speculation an exercise in futility. Much of the information easily available is, to be blunt, wrong.

The summary Univair prepared long ago was based on incomplete information. Veda Dyer had more information than time (running Univair) and released preliminary research that is often regarded as the undisputed "last word". Take it from me, there are major errors in that information.

Type Certificates, FAA Registrations, ERCO correspondence, production, sales, export and delivery records must all be considered (more or less together) in arriving at meaningful production numbers. That is why I created a database containing every Ercoupe (et al) ever made (or not made).

A 415-C factory-converted to a 415-CD counts in production figures for both models. The same airframe counts only as a 415-CD in terms of airframes SOLD (or placed in private operation), and only once (the respective Serial Number) in terms of total airframes built.

You can't tell much about how many 415-C Ercoupes have been converted to "415-D specification" because FAA Regions have differing positions on the "issue" of whether or not anyone can change an airframe model "officially" (in FAA Registry records) once it leaves factory control. There are some on current registry, but many more "in the field".

It's kinda like counting guppies when you try to determine how many 415-CDs are flying as 415-Ds today. With the Sport Pilot rules, the pot is stirred to such extent I doubt anyone can make sense of it for a long time to come.

ERCO factory-converted (mostly in the field and on the west coast) over a hundred completed but unsold 415-C Ercoupes into REAL 415-CD models in every respect. I will publish the serial numbers of these Ercoupes in an upcoming book.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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On Feb 12, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Harden wrote:

Hi!


If you have an Ercoupe that is designated as a model #415CD or 415C/D and it was built in 1946, odds are it is a $415C that has been converted to a $415D specification.

There were 350+ #415CD models built but they were built in 1947 according all records I can find and according to Univair.

Ron
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